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07-07-2022, 07:37 AM
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You still think this poll is about political party it’s INFLATION, GAS PRICES TOP FAMILY CONCERNS
majority of 57% say that the actions of the federal government over the past six months have hurt their family
But not one of that 57% could name a policy or action the federal government took or didn’t take .. they think the government controls prices of gas and food , America’s are spoiled and need instant fixes while having short historical memories .
What bills have either party passed since this inflation started ? NONE
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07-07-2022, 08:56 AM
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You still think this poll is about political party it’s INFLATION, GAS PRICES TOP FAMILY CONCERNS
majority of 57% say that the actions of the federal government over the past six months have hurt their family
But not one of that 57% could name a policy or action the federal government took or didn’t take .. they think the government controls prices of gas and food , America’s are spoiled and need instant fixes while having short historical memories .
What bills have either party passed since this inflation started ? NONE
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oh i know what it’s about. And i know which party controls the entire federal government at the moment.
how do you know that not one person can name a single thing Biden did that caused harm? Please tell me what you’re basing that lunacy on?
People know Biden said he was going to end fossil fuels, people
know he pumped trillions into the economy in the middle of a supply crunch ( all but guaranteeing inflation), people
know he said inflation was transitory, people
know he’s lying through his dentures when he says Putin caused it all, people know that democrats demonize police and victimize criminals, people know the liberals want a catastrophic open border ( unless 51% of hispanics somehow vote red, in which case the democrats will change their tune quickly on illegal immigration).
People were clearly willing to put up with all that in order to flush Trump down the toilet. Unfortunately for democrats, despite the January 6 hearings, Trump isn’t on the ballot in november. It’s going to be a referendum on how life has changed since we gave the democrats the keys to our federal government. It’s been one complete disaster after another since the Afghanistan exit.
On top of al that, the economy is acting very sick. we could be in a serious recession in november, which would almost be an extinction event for the left in congress, at least in the house.
The overturning of Roe will help a little. Likely not a big help.
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07-07-2022, 01:50 PM
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Let’s see
Border Crisis
Texans cross the southern border in droves for basic healthcare needs. THAT is the emergency at the border.
It’s not Brazilian butt-lifts, it’s basic healthcare…dental, vision, internists, and pharmacy.
“Americans forced to seek healthcare in foreign country” is the headline.
And there's another southern border emergency - women who are seeking abortions are heading to Mexico, too.
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07-07-2022, 02:39 PM
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Let’s see
Border Crisis
Texans cross the southern border in droves for basic healthcare needs. THAT is the emergency at the border.
It’s not Brazilian butt-lifts, it’s basic healthcare…dental, vision, internists, and pharmacy.
“Americans forced to seek healthcare in foreign country” is the headline.
And there's another southern border emergency - women who are seeking abortions are heading to Mexico, too.
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you keep telling yourself that there’s nothing to see at the border.
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07-07-2022, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
“Americans forced to seek healthcare in foreign country” is the headline.
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it’s “your” headline. not “the” headline.
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07-07-2022, 08:12 PM
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Sure, tell us about the oncoming caravan
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07-07-2022, 09:17 PM
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Sure, tell us about the oncoming caravan
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i didn’t say that was the headline, i’ve never once mentioned it.
How about record drug deaths and fentanyl overdoses? is that a rounding error
to you?
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07-08-2022, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i didn’t say that was the headline, i’ve never once mentioned it.
How about record drug deaths and fentanyl overdoses? is that a rounding error
to you?
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Floriduh has a terrible problem with that, you’d think DeathSantis would do something
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07-08-2022, 05:23 AM
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Floriduh has a terrible problem with that, you’d think DeathSantis would do something
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so does all of new england. you forgot to mention that.
In a few months, you’re going to find out which one of us has a better clue about what america is thinking.
https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/deaths/2020.html
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07-08-2022, 05:38 AM
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Today, California Governor Newsom announced an investment in state-manufactured insulin to be sold almost at cost. Meanwhile, Republicans are using their state funds to investigate critical race theory. Priorities on full display.
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07-08-2022, 06:20 AM
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Today, California Governor Newsom announced an investment in state-manufactured insulin to be sold almost at cost. Meanwhile, Republicans are using their state funds to investigate critical race theory. Priorities on full display.
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meanwhile he travels in luxury, violating lockdowns he demands the little people adhere to. He’s not electable outside of a super progressive place.
But it sounds like a good idea.
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07-08-2022, 06:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Today, California Governor Newsom announced an investment in state-manufactured insulin to be sold almost at cost. Meanwhile, Republicans are using their state funds to investigate critical race theory. Priorities on full display.
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how many people moved from CA to TX or FL today?
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07-08-2022, 05:41 AM
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How do you know gas prices have been falling for 3 weeks straight and #^&#^&#^&#^&’s about to hit the fan for Trump and Republicans?
They’re talking about private citizen Hunter Biden again
Like clockwork
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07-08-2022, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
How do you know gas prices have been falling for 3 weeks straight and #^&#^&#^&#^&’s about to hit the fan for Trump and Republicans?
They’re talking about private citizen Hunter Biden again
Like clockwork
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you don’t get it. It’s GOOD for the GOP if trump gets in trouble and can’t run again. The democrats have shown they can beat Trump ( before we knew how incompetent and senile biden is). The GOP will have a better chance in 2024 without Trump. Going after Trump, helps the GOP, it doesn’t hurt the GOP. It clears the way for Desantis.
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07-08-2022, 06:06 AM
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The GOP is ditching general election appeal to independent voters in favor of hard-line appeals to their conservative base.
Birth control, gay marriage, Public Education, Social Security, Medicare are all on the chopping block
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07-08-2022, 06:24 AM
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The GOP is ditching general election appeal to independent voters in favor of hard-line appeals to their conservative base.
Birth control, gay marriage, Public Education, Social Security, Medicare are all on the chopping block
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what’s the gop doing with birth control and gay marriage? I must’ve missed that.
Don’t forget seeing eye dogs, i heard the gop wants to harvest and eat all the seeing eye dogs in the country.
You’re a lunatic.
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07-08-2022, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
what’s the gop doing with birth control and gay marriage? I must’ve missed that.
Don’t forget seeing eye dogs, i heard the gop wants to harvest and eat all the seeing eye dogs in the country.
You’re a lunatic.
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You’re a blind follower
Remember Roe v Wade was in no danger
Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare—what worries me is Republicans are now coming to take away birth control, too.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said he is willing to help Texas overturn gay marriage and uphold sodomy laws at the Supreme Court based on Clarence Thomas’ concurrence.
BOTH FLORIDA U.S. SENATORS Rick Scott & Marco Rubio have gone on record saying they want to cut Social Security.
FLORIDA's Governor DeSantis vetoed $2 million meant to help low-income people access long-acting birth control—which had been sent to his desk with bipartisan support.
Mississippi Governor Reeves would not say whether he would sign legislation banning birth control.
Clarence Thomas’s concurrence in Dobbs explicitly called for reconsidering a host of other legal protections, from birth control (Griswold), same-sex sexual relations (Lawrence), and same-sex marriage (Obergefell). Marginalized communities will be targeted. It will not stop here.
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07-08-2022, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You’re a blind follower
Remember Roe v Wade was in no danger
Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare—what worries me is Republicans are now coming to take away birth control, too.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said he is willing to help Texas overturn gay marriage and uphold sodomy laws at the Supreme Court based on Clarence Thomas’ concurrence.
BOTH FLORIDA U.S. SENATORS Rick Scott & Marco Rubio have gone on record saying they want to cut Social Security.
FLORIDA's Governor DeSantis vetoed $2 million meant to help low-income people access long-acting birth control—which had been sent to his desk with bipartisan support.
Mississippi Governor Reeves would not say whether he would sign legislation banning birth control.
Clarence Thomas’s concurrence in Dobbs explicitly called for reconsidering a host of other legal protections, from birth control (Griswold), same-sex sexual relations (Lawrence), and same-sex marriage (Obergefell). Marginalized communities will be targeted. It will not stop here.
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you’re not a blind follower, but I am? Keep telling yourself
that
Yes, i said many times I’d never live to see Roe overturned. I was speculating, as we all do, and i got that vine spectacularly wrong, as we all sometimes so ( not you though, your predictions are 100% accurate.)
What are you expecting in november? That the democrats gain house seats?
Why should abortion be rare? That’s stupid. The only way to justify abortion is to believe that the unborn is an ina image object, in which case abortion is no more of a moral dilemma than removing a mole. A million times a year isn’t rare.
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07-08-2022, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You’re a blind follower
Remember Roe v Wade was in no danger
Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare—what worries me is Republicans are now coming to take away birth control, too.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said he is willing to help Texas overturn gay marriage and uphold sodomy laws at the Supreme Court based on Clarence Thomas’ concurrence.
BOTH FLORIDA U.S. SENATORS Rick Scott & Marco Rubio have gone on record saying they want to cut Social Security.
FLORIDA's Governor DeSantis vetoed $2 million meant to help low-income people access long-acting birth control—which had been sent to his desk with bipartisan support.
Mississippi Governor Reeves would not say whether he would sign legislation banning birth control.
Clarence Thomas’s concurrence in Dobbs explicitly called for reconsidering a host of other legal protections, from birth control (Griswold), same-sex sexual relations (Lawrence), and same-sex marriage (Obergefell). Marginalized communities will be targeted. It will not stop here.
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oh i see. so if desantis is opposed to using public money for birth control, that means he’s opposed to birth control.
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07-08-2022, 07:52 AM
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Economy added 372k jobs in June, beating consensus. The labor market is not even remotely suggesting recession.
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07-08-2022, 07:56 AM
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Pete, if i’m responsible for every stupid thing that any republican says, are yiunsikilarlybresponsiblemfor every outlandish thing a democrat says? Are you liable for everything that Ihan Omar and Rashida Talib say? Lori Lightfoot said f—- Clarence Thomas, are you responsible for that?
I can go tit for tat with you all day. So let’s not waste time on that stupidity, and talk about results of policies. But there’s a reason why you don’t want that conversation.
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07-08-2022, 08:06 AM
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Let’s see how many Trumplicans in power or not said “Let’s go Brandon”?
Meanwhile Leading historical societies conclude that the “misrepresentations” in Dobbs “are now enshrined in a text that becomes authoritative for legal reference and citation in the future.” But scholars and lawyers should agree never to cite this fake “history.”
https://www.historians.org/Documents...ment_final.pdf
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07-08-2022, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Leading historical societies conclude that the “misrepresentations” in Dobbs “are now enshrined in a text that becomes authoritative for legal reference and citation in the future.” But scholars and lawyers should agree never to cite this fake “history.”
https://www.historians.org/Documents...ment_final.pdf
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Well, I think the radical SCOTUS shouldn’t just invent history to justify overturning a long-standing decision.
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07-08-2022, 08:51 AM
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The 88% of people who think we are off track are probably the 88% of people in blue states who thanks to the electoral college and gerrymandering are voting independent and democrat. If we were to remove that bull#^&#^&#^&#^&, our elections would be wildly different.
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07-08-2022, 08:54 AM
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The 88% of people who think we are off track are probably the 88% of people in blue states who thanks to the electoral college and gerrymandering are voting independent and democrat. If we were to remove that bull#^&#^&#^&#^&, our elections would be wildly different.
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yeah i’m sure that’s what their beef is. Lord knows there’s nothing else to disagree with. You see any polling to suggest that’s what people are stressed about right now?
the presidential elections would be different for sure.
If enough people want to change it, fortunately for them there’s a mechanism to change the constitution.
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07-08-2022, 08:07 AM
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here ya go Pete, governors approval ratings ( not sure when this was done.)
Desantis approval is 58%, Newsom is 42%.
Keep in mind, that CA is a much bluer state than FL is red. Not even close.
Explain that, please. Why is Desantis doing better in a purple state than Newsom is in a deep blue state?
Have fun with that.
https://morningconsult.com/governor-rankings/
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07-08-2022, 08:12 AM
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here ya go Pete, governors approval ratings ( not sure when this was done.)
Desantis approval is 58%, Newsom is 42%.
Keep in mind, that CA is a much bluer state than FL is red. Not even close.
Explain that, please. Why is Desantis doing better in a purple state than Newsom is in a deep blue state?
Have fun with that.
https://morningconsult.com/governor-rankings/
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OK
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is down by 13 points to Democrat Charlie Crist in the 2022 election in new poll
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07-08-2022, 08:36 AM
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is down by 13 points to Democrat Charlie Crist in the 2022 election in new poll
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do you EVER respond to the question asked?
Crust is very popular in FL, and FL is a purple state. Crist could definitely win. Which would presumably be the end for Desantis.
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07-08-2022, 08:10 AM
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New NavigatorSurvey polling finds a 24 pt drop in GOP favorability with independents, and 10 pts overall.
This is a very significant shift in a short period of time, and more confirming data that the natl landscape is becoming far better for Dems.
72% of Democrats more likely to vote now. Big number! Other polls now have Dem vote intensity higher than Rs.
This is not a typical midterm. The anti-MAGA majority which voted in record numbers in the last two elections is getting ready to do it again this time.
Lots of data now showing a new, bluer 2022 election.
In 9 polls of the Congressional Generic since Row Dems hold a 1.7 pt lead, a shift of 4-5 pts for Ds. It's a big deal.
63% support a national law to protect a women's right to an abortion. It's +30 with indies. This is another big number.
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