If the gop win the midterms

[wdmso]

As expected if the GOP wins the midterms here is their plan

The GOP lawmakers are getting set to look at a number of issues including Hunter Biden's business dealings, the southern border and the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

and are already planning to expand their oversight goals beyond the administration and investigate the Democrats' formation of the Jan. 6 select committee and the origins of COVID-19,


Of course Jan 6th committee on the list ! as they more upset with those defending American democratic process Then they are with the man who tried to destroy it.

Revengeful cowards just feeding their gutless gullible base !

Absent from their list

Inflation, the economy, , gas prices all things that would benefit all Americans…. But they can’t allow that to happen prior to a presidential elections ! For fear Democratic’s may be seen as the cause and get credit . So they will happily sit back and watch Americans suffer

[Pete F.]

What Trumplicans mean by “small government” is just that they want the federal (“big”) government to stop interfering with what state and local (“small”) government wants to do. They do not want fewer restrictions on liberties, they just want to be in charge of them.
But at the same time if they could get a federal abortion law or some other federal laws passed that they support, they would do it. As far as restrictions on liberties, they just want control of which liberty to restrict.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

But at the same time if they could get a federal abortion law or some other federal laws passed that they support, they would do it.
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So you felt the need to point out, that if the GOP wins, they will advocate for conservative ideals.

Did you come up with that all by yourself? Or did someone with a PhD in political science explain it to you?

The GOP is going to win the house. Senate will be much tougher because the democrats got very lucky with which 33 seats are up.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So you felt the need to point out, that if the GOP wins, they will advocate for conservative ideals.

Did you come up with that all by yourself? Or did someone with a PhD in political science explain it to you?

The GOP is going to win the house. Senate will be much tougher because the democrats got very lucky with which 33 seats are up.

The GQP will gladly take away all the gains Americans have made in the past 50 years.

Dems/Repubs for 50 years
Stock Market Return: R - 109%, Dem - 992%
Total jobs created: R - 24M, Dem - 42M
Income growth: R - 0.6%, Dem - 2.2%
GDP: R - 2.7%, Dem - 4.1%
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The GQP will gladly take away all the gains Americans have made in the past 50 years.

Dems/Repubs for 50 years
Stock Market Return: R - 109%, Dem - 992%
Total jobs created: R - 24M, Dem - 42M
Income growth: R - 0.6%, Dem - 2.2%
GDP: R - 2.7%, Dem - 4.1%
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this is why the bluest states have the lowest taxes yet all have big surpluses, right Pete?

Biden didn't create all these jobs. We reopened the economy after we chose to shut it down.

If Biden owns the drop in unemployment that happened on his watch, he also owns the changes in inflation, gas prices, crime, illegal border crossings on is watch.

Pete, you can't say he caused all the good things but bears zero responsibility for the bad things. Well, you can say it, the entire left says it...but America isn't buying it.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

this is why the bluest states have the lowest taxes yet all have big surpluses, right Pete?

Biden didn't create all these jobs. We reopened the economy after we chose to shut it down.

If Biden owns the drop in unemployment that happened on his watch, he also owns the changes in inflation, gas prices, crime, illegal border crossings on is watch.

Pete, you can't say he caused all the good things but bears zero responsibility for the bad things. Well, you can say it, the entire left says it...but America isn't buying it.

I think you missed his point and since I know Pete is a research ninja, I will assume his figures for the past 50 years are somewhat accurate. You are talking a couple years, trends don't happen in a couple years, why not respond to the trend he pointed out?

You I'm certain can agree that had covid not happened and Trump still lost to Biden due to his POS moral compass, you couldn't predict how Biden might have faired. The flip side might also be true, but in light of Trumps rapid quest to hold onto power, I don't think this country (other than the cult members) would have done all that well.

Carry on gentlemen.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

As expected if the GOP wins the midterms here is their plan

The GOP lawmakers are getting set to look at a number of issues including Hunter Biden's business dealings, the southern border and the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

and are already planning to expand their oversight goals beyond the administration and investigate the Democrats' formation of the Jan. 6 select committee and the origins of COVID-19,


Of course Jan 6th committee on the list ! as they more upset with those defending American democratic process Then they are with the man who tried to destroy it.

Revengeful cowards just feeding their gutless gullible base !

Absent from their list

Inflation, the economy, , gas prices all things that would benefit all Americans…. But they can’t allow that to happen prior to a presidential elections ! For fear Democratic’s may be seen as the cause and get credit . So they will happily sit back and watch Americans suffer

The GOP has no plan on gas?

Yes they do. Here it is. Drill, drill, drill.

"Inflation, the economy, , gas prices all things that would benefit all Americans…"

If these are things that would benefit all Americans, and the democrats control the white house and congress, then why isn't the left doing anything to address those things?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The GOP has no plan on gas?

Yes they do. Here it is. Drill, drill, drill.

"Inflation, the economy, , gas prices all things that would benefit all Americans…"

If these are things that would benefit all Americans, and the democrats control the white house and congress, then why isn't the left doing anything to address those things?

Classic no sense response Drill Drill drill

So you still haven’t accepted government doesn’t control oil production . And private companies can drill to their hearts content

Like I said gullible
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Classic no sense response Drill Drill drill

So you still haven’t accepted government doesn’t control oil production . And private companies can drill to their hearts content

Like I said gullible
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pricing for gas is largely speculative. Meaning, if the market speculates a president will
drill like crazy, that will
push down prices.

I’m sure you know tons and tons about finance and economics.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

pricing for gas is largely speculative. Meaning, if the market speculates a president will
drill like crazy, that will
push down prices.

Maybe for crude oil.
Will the next POTUS mandate a drilling target? How about a requirement to use the previously allocated permits before they open some sensitive federal areas?
Limit exports of oil drilled in the US?
Increase refining capacity? That seems to be the bottleneck (down ~1 mil a day or so since COVID) on gas prices right now (and why prices for gas/diesel are higher compared to previous times oil/barrel was at a similar price point).

Exxon et al.,'s profits are pretty dandy right now. I don't see them making the investments in refining (and no, it isn't a call to make it state controlled energy)...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Classic no sense response Drill Drill drill

So you still haven’t accepted government doesn’t control oil production .
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the feds and the EPA play no role at all? What happened to the a keystone Pipeline, the private business decided on their own to shut it down?
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[Pete F.]

Jim as usual is repeating what he hears and the GQP has no plan

Why drill when you can make as much or more without the risk?
Apparently he thinks corporations are either under the control of the government or stupid.

Investors have demanded that producers maintain capital discipline and grow volumes modestly. Returns have taken priority over growth. Up until recently, a producer planning to significantly grow production volumes would likely have been punished by investors. However, that sentiment may be changing with oil prices where they are and the potential need to replace Russian barrels on the global market.

The geopolitical situation and oil price level may give US producers a license to grow volumes more meaningfully. It takes time for producers to respond to prices, though, and the price signal was not strong enough for E&Ps to potentially veer from their plans for moderate growth until recently. Private producers have been able to ramp upstream activity more meaningfully given that they do not have to answer to a public investor base.”
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[Got Stripers]

Not as easy as Jim would have you believe and I also believe oil from overseas is far easier to refine than our domestic oil.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Not as easy as Jim would have you believe and I also believe oil from overseas is far easier to refine than our domestic oil.

i didn’t say it was easy. But it’s not all Putin’s fault either, and america knows the administration is lying when they say it’s all putin’s fault.
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[PaulS]

Red states have lower taxes but Blue states are better in almost every other category. I wonder how much worse off those red states would be in there wasn't a transfer of wealth from the blue states?

After the 2016 election, Mark Muro, the policy director of the Brookings Institution’s Metropolitan Policy Project, found that the 472 counties Hillary Clinton won produced 64% of the country’s economic output, while the 2,584 counties Donald Trump won contributed just 36%. That was a significant jump from the 2000 election, when the blue-red county economic split was 54% to 46%. Muro dubbed this divide “high-output America” vs. “low-output America.”
Last year, after Biden defeated Trump, Muro looked again and found that the economic output divide has grown even more pronounced. The 520 counties Biden won account for fully 71% of U.S. gross domestic product, while the 2,564 that Trump carried produced just 29%. In other words, America’s economic engine is bluer than ever.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Red states have lower taxes but Blue states are better in almost every other category. I wonder how much worse off those red states would be in there wasn't a transfer of wealth from the blue states?

After the 2016 election, Mark Muro, the policy director of the Brookings Institution’s Metropolitan Policy Project, found that the 472 counties Hillary Clinton won produced 64% of the country’s economic output, while the 2,584 counties Donald Trump won contributed just 36%. That was a significant jump from the 2000 election, when the blue-red county economic split was 54% to 46%. Muro dubbed this divide “high-output America” vs. “low-output America.”
Last year, after Biden defeated Trump, Muro looked again and found that the economic output divide has grown even more pronounced. The 520 counties Biden won account for fully 71% of U.S. gross domestic product, while the 2,564 that Trump carried produced just 29%. In other words, America’s economic engine is bluer than ever.

if blue states are better in ways that people actually cared about, people
would be moving to blue states instead of fleeing them.

You have self-serving theory. I have hard,,irrefutable, meaningful facts.

You’re right, the wealthy are almost all democrat now. That changed very quickly. When the wealthy were all conservative,,liberals said it was bad to cater to the rich. all of. sudden it’s a good thing.

Lower income working people
loved trump. Loved him. You obviously think that’s a bad thing. which seems elitist. but whatever.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if blue states are better in ways that people actually cared about, people
would be moving to blue states instead of fleeing them.

You have self-serving theory. I have hard,,irrefutable, meaningful facts.

You’re right, the wealthy are almost all democrat now. That changed very quickly. When the wealthy were all conservative,,liberals said it was bad to cater to the rich. all of. sudden it’s a good thing.

Lower income working people
loved trump. Loved him. You obviously think that’s a bad thing. which seems elitist. but whatever.
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In addition to retirees it is prob. the people who can't compete in the blues states who are moving.

I think lower income people loved Trump bc he talked and acted like a foul mouthed goon who didn't care who he insulted. I guess that is elitist.

[scottw]

[QUOTE=PaulS;1229567]In addition to retirees it is prob. the people who can't compete in the blues states who are moving.

/QUOTE]

Maybe the are sick of elitists in skinny 👖
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by PaulS

In addition to retirees it is prob. the people who can't compete in the blues states who are moving.

I think lower income people loved Trump bc he talked and acted like a foul mouthed goon who didn't care who he insulted. I guess that is elitist.

Can’t debate Jim on that one, he has hung his hat on people moving in droves to red states. The problem is he just doesn’t understand it’s not about politics. I’d love to move to FL for half the year, it’s not about politics, tax rates, it’s about marine life, fishing, atmosphere and warmth in the winter. Hey Jim if FL, which you love to use as an example, suddenly was transported next to Montana, would we me moving there in droves?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Hey Jim if FL, which you love to use as an example, suddenly was transported next to Montana, would we me moving there in droves?

Montana is apparently experiencing large population growth.


Washington Post. Population booms are overwhelming schools in Montana
The rapid growth in and around Bozeman, Mont., threatens the reputation — and sustainability — of its public schools

By Neal Morton
May 13, 2022

The 2021 population estimates indicate that migration was by far the most significant population driver for Montana in the year following the 2020 census. Without it, Montana's population would have shrunk,

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Can’t debate Jim on that one, he has hung his hat on people moving in droves to red states. The problem is he just doesn’t understand it’s not about politics. I’d love to move to FL for half the year, it’s not about politics, tax rates, it’s about marine life, fishing, atmosphere and warmth in the winter. Hey Jim if FL, which you love to use as an example, suddenly was transported next to Montana, would we me moving there in droves?

so it’s all the losers leaving red states. i’m sure that’s the case.

if it’s not politically related, how come no one lives to southern CA, which also has warmth and water?

I’ll wait for your response. Can’t wait.
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[Jim in CT]

older data showing that in 2016, population exodus cost CT 2.6B. this will
change as with covid, lots of rich Manhattanites moved in.

https://yankeeinstitute.org/2018/10/...ation-in-2016/
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[Pete F.]

Had enough?

Massive erosion of support for Republicans among seniors:
65+
May 37D - 62R
July 49D - 47R
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Had enough?

Massive erosion of support for Republicans among seniors:
65+
May 37D - 62R
July 49D - 47R
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did you, or Joe Scarborough just make this up to give yourselves some hope?....I hope you find comfort in this because there is none elsewhere

[Pete F.]

Here’s the chance that a kid born in the bottom 20% of the income distribution eventually reaches the top 20%, depending on where they live.

Red states are not the land of opportunity.

https://inequality.stanford.edu/site...c-mobility.pdf
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Here’s the chance that a kid born in the bottom 20% of the income distribution eventually reaches the top 20%, depending on where they live.

Red states are not the land of opportunity.

https://inequality.stanford.edu/site...c-mobility.pdf
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Easy fix if you care about the people less fortunate than yourself - increase the taxes in those red states and improve the schools, infrastructure, etc. But then you can't claim your state is so good bc taxes aren't low (while still getting $ from the blue states that pay far more in taxes to the Fed than they get back).

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Easy fix if you care about the people less fortunate than yourself - increase the taxes in those red states and improve the schools, infrastructure, etc. But then you can't claim your state is so good bc taxes aren't low (while still getting $ from the blue states that pay far more in taxes to the Fed than they get back).

that’s if you believe that spending money solves everything. hartford spends $19k to educate each kid, and the schools stink.

do t let facts get in the way.

there’s a reason why people are moving there. i know you all hate that reason, but facts don’t care whether or not you like those facts.

Yes, better bridges and roads will end poverty.

why oppose school choice if you claim to want to help these people?
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

that’s if you believe that spending money solves everything. hartford spends $19k to educate each kid, and the schools stink.

do t let facts get in the way.

there’s a reason why people are moving there. i know you all hate that reason, but facts don’t care whether or not you like those facts.

Yes, better bridges and roads will end poverty.

why oppose school choice if you claim to want to help these people?
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You're an actuary. There is a pretty good correlation between the states that have higher taxes and better education systems, where the people seem to live longer and now we know have a better chance of success.

You're a one trick pony - you only care about lower taxes. It benefits you bc you make enough that you can make up for the crappy schools, etc. in those red states where the better off have no empathy or compassion for those people who aren't as well off.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You're an actuary. There is a pretty good correlation between the states that have higher taxes and better education systems, where the people seem to live longer and now we know have a better chance of success.

You're a one trick pony - you only care about lower taxes. It benefits you bc you make enough that you can make up for the crappy schools, etc. in those red states where the better off have no empathy or compassion for those people who aren't as well off.

i high end mercedes is better than a honda accord. but to many people, it’s not worth the extra cost.

i’m nothing close to a one trick pony. i care about taxes and what you get in return. that’s what most people care about. and many are deciding that blue states aren’t worth the cost.
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taxes AND what you get in return. not just taxes. i don’t always lol for cheapest price. But most people
look for the best value. cost is one part of value, not the only part.

If you can’t concede that cost and benefit are two different things, you have issues.

Not just taxes. Taxes, combines with an honest discussion of what one gets in return.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You're an actuary. There is a pretty good correlation between the states that have higher taxes and better education systems, where the people seem to live longer and now we know have a better chance of success.

You're a one trick pony - you only care about lower taxes. It benefits you bc you make enough that you can make up for the crappy schools, etc. in those red states where the better off have no empathy or compassion for those people who aren't as well off.

paul there are beautiful suburbs in NH ( Hollis, Brookline, Bedford, Amherst, Bow) where they can’t build $600,000 houses fast enough, with the best public schools in the state.

NH has no income tax, no sales tax. Over 40 years, that’s over 200k in savings to many families. in my case it’s probably close to 300k.

What am i getting in CT, that i wouldn’t get if i lived in NH? What’s the state of CT doing for me that’s worth $300k more than what is get i. NH?

The university of NH is cheaper than UCONN as well.

Please tell me what i’m getting for all that extra cost? Because i can’t think of anything.

Many people are coming to the same realization.

You think social services are well
funded in. CT? ask someone who works for DCF how much their funding has been cut.
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