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09-30-2003, 08:57 PM
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Dear Pure Fishing...You Suck
What in tarnation are you guys doing to all those fine brands that you bought???!!!
Did you guys overpay for all your acquisitions and now are faced consolidating/rationalizing your product line?
Whatever happened to "if it ain't broke, DON'T FARGIN FIX IT?!!!"
-You insult us with the unreliable Mitchell Nautil disposable reel series.
-Then you discontinue the fine non-level wind Abu 7500's. So no more 7500 C3CT or 7500 Big Game conventional reels which have served as reliable workhorses around the world.
-Then I was forced to hoard some Abu 7500 and 6500 CL's because you are discontinuing these items.
-Whatever reels are assuming the aforementioned product lineup are going to be made of CHEAPER materials.
-Now you're discontinuing a proven Fireline product and replacing it with something with a line diameter size that is larger?
I'm sorry, I don't see this as progress. It's called brand dilution and regression to suck-arse.
Either us East Coast saltwater anglers don't mean diddly to you because we are an insignificant market segment...or your marketing folks don't know fakk-all.
YOU GUYS SUCK!
Sincerely,
Wee Wee
Last edited by fishweewee; 09-30-2003 at 09:09 PM..
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09-30-2003, 09:03 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Don't forget to add that more and more Abu reels are no longer "Made in Sweden" but "Assembled in Sweden from parts precision machined in Taiwan". But still command "Made in Sweden" prices
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09-30-2003, 09:07 PM
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Sure, try to increase your margins by lowering your product costs.
But watch as your inventory turns slow to molasses as anglers realize the new "rip-off" strategy.
This is freakin' bovine feces!!!
Say what you will, but thank God for Daiwa SloSH.
I guess there will be more hoarding of old-flavor Fireline.

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09-30-2003, 09:11 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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And next I guess you're gonna tell me that Zebco will spare no expense to maintain the fine quality of the Van Staal product line
"Assembled in the USA with parts precision machined in Singapore" 
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09-30-2003, 09:15 PM
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Mike,
I honestly don't have a problem with parts made overseas as long as they are similar quality as ones made in their original locations. Any rational company would try to find lower labor costs for the same work.
But it appears that they are putting cheaper materials in the reels.
Like we wouldn't notice.

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09-30-2003, 09:19 PM
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Plug Builder in Training
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Mike from what I here . the zebco thing is not going to happen.
Thats all I can say for now I don't want to get anybody fired 
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09-30-2003, 09:22 PM
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That's it, I'm gonna just fly fish for the rest of my life.

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09-30-2003, 09:22 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Talk to my wife about that---before she decided to go into teaching, she was an engineer for Rockwell, IBM and a smaller company in Danbury. She's as liberal as they come politically, but she said there was a HUGE difference in the quality of components made in the US and those that were imported from the Pacific Rim.
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09-30-2003, 09:25 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Quote:
Originally posted by mikecc
Mike from what I here . the zebco thing is not going to happen.
Thats all I can say for now I don't want to get anybody fired
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Great, just great. That's just swell
I can see the day when all I have on my rods again are Squidders and Z's
Not that it would be a bad thing, necessarily.
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09-30-2003, 09:25 PM
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Plug Builder in Training
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09-30-2003, 09:27 PM
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09-30-2003, 10:18 PM
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I love my Toyota//////////////////////////// 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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10-01-2003, 07:15 AM
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Hooked
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 Did you really say that they're going to discontinue Fireline? 
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10-01-2003, 08:09 AM
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Yes, according to MikeCC 
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10-01-2003, 08:40 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Anyone interested in having a website "Open Letter to Pure Fishing"? Expecially after that 2 page advertisement, err, I mean article, in The Fisherman last week, I think Berkely Pure Fishing needs a kick in the posterior.
Get a lot of people to contribute and say where we think they went wrong followed by what we would like to see...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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10-01-2003, 10:14 AM
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Got to agree. Discontinuing the Big Game 7000CL and 6500CL is a total barf on their part. Best reels they make and they stop making them.
Too bad cause I prefer the current Abu Big Games , even over my Calcuttas despite the drag issues. Oh well , that's progress. 
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Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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10-01-2003, 10:23 AM
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Dave's Guide Service
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Pro Tool Club....
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10-01-2003, 11:01 AM
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What took you so long, grumpy? 
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10-01-2003, 11:18 AM
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Dave's Guide Service
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ben can U get any more #14???
if so Im down if You Buy any
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Pro Tool Club....
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10-01-2003, 11:21 AM
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10-01-2003, 11:21 AM
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Callinectes sapidus
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 Fargingoogan!!! 
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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10-01-2003, 11:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by bassmaster
ben can U get any more #14???
if so Im down if You Buy any
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Dude I don't know where to get bulk spools really cheap. So far I've only ordered that shtuff from Cabela's.
-WW
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10-01-2003, 11:30 AM
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Dave's Guide Service
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well if u start hoarding let me know I will get a couple bulk #14
why the not going to make the stuff.
cause it works????
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Pro Tool Club....
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10-01-2003, 11:35 AM
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why the not going to make the stuff.
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Interesting theory though......think about all the crap youve bought and founds out it sucked...so what did you do?? you went and bought something else....and again...until you found something you liked! that four sales instead of one!
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10-01-2003, 11:36 AM
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Yeah, cuz it works just fine, so the marketers feel they have to mess with it.
Remember what happened to New Coke? 
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10-01-2003, 11:36 AM
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Dave's Guide Service
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Ben U gonna order some??
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Pro Tool Club....
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10-01-2003, 11:38 AM
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Well, it looks like I HAVE to now, don't I?
Pisses me off, there goes the food budget. 
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10-01-2003, 11:39 AM
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Callinectes sapidus
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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10-01-2003, 02:59 PM
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tiddlywinks havent changed much since 1889
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10-01-2003, 05:36 PM
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nautil too
I also heard that the Nautils were going too!!!!
How much would it cost for them to upgrade to smoothies on all the abus?
How long has everyone known that the stock drag on the abus is horrible?
When another company sets up shop upgrading your product that ain't science!!!!
Good thing I got my big game when I did. Now I want another.
Oh---I got a nautil 7500 too.
Are there any other waterproof spinners out there?
Try PowerPro----I've had great luck with it.
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