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02-10-2004, 02:04 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Boston
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strongest knot?
what do you guys use for a knot on your leader/hook? i've been using a palomar.is this the stronest knot?
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02-10-2004, 05:29 AM
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Below Me
Join Date: May 2003
Location: low
Posts: 2,909
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It is the one I use. Sometimes I will use an improved clinch
Palomar is great for heavy leader material 
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02-10-2004, 07:12 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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It's strong. but more importantly, it's almost impossible to tie it badly.
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02-10-2004, 10:10 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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What they said....I like palomar where ever I can tie it. It tests at 100% breaking strength of the line plus it has two lines that wrap around and make contact the hooks eye, instead of one for the clinch. Putting less stress on any one in case it gets knicked slightly. However, having tied the improved clinch all my life I can do it in pitch darkness without looking so sometimes in the heat of the battle I tie that or in cases where I have a heavy-ish leader and a tiny spro swivel where fitting two lines in that little hole is too binding. Both are good knots to know IMO. There are a handful of fishing knots you need to know IMO for different apps. Albright, surgeons, blood, dropperloop ect. Lefty (and Mark Sosin) has a good book out on knots...worth reading the discussion on their use for background, ...it changed the way I do a couple of things.
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02-10-2004, 10:21 AM
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52.5 lb in 04
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Shore MA
Posts: 54
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the fisherman has a good article on knots this weeks edition. It Basicly says learn a couple of knots very well, use plenty of spit to lube the knot, and make sure you tighten the knot with the spit, it acts as a lube. They say that the Triline knot is the best, I believe that this is the same as the improved clinch knot. What ever I beleive that the polymar knot is very strong easy to tie and very strong. I have started to tie the triline knot and it works very good. I made a little jig to test the knot strenghts. I thbink that poorly made knotsaccount for more lost fish than anything else.

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02-10-2004, 11:13 AM
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Seal Control
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Caver, Ma.
Posts: 3,875
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I have been using the Palomar and it is a quick knot to tie and strong!!
But I have also been trying to use another knot called the Berkly Braid Knot. It is strong strong strong!! I tyed it to a hook using 65# Stealth and then clamped it in a vice. I pulled like heck and I could not break the knot!! I broke the line were I wraped it around a screw driver everytime never hurting the knot.
Try it you might like it!
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02-10-2004, 11:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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Looks like a clinch but doubled up
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02-10-2004, 11:38 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Bedford, NH
Posts: 626
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Looks like a good knot to learn for when you've got too much schtuff to pass through the loop of a palomar.
I've never tied terminal tackle direct to braid though. I'd probably tie this to a swivel on a pre-tied leader.
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02-10-2004, 12:40 PM
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Seal Control
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Caver, Ma.
Posts: 3,875
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Thats what I do, Hooked. All my stuff has some kind of leader be it Flro, or mono. So I tye this to the swivel worked well for me at the end of the season as then is when i found it.
There are to Knot tying sites , more I am sure but here are to i went to
http://www.marinews.com/fishing/fk_main.htm
http://www.tnoutdoorsmen.com/knots.htm
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02-10-2004, 01:30 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,203
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Any different Knots that you would use for Braid vs. Mono? I pretty much tie everything w/ a palomar. Once in awhile I use a trilene.
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02-10-2004, 02:27 PM
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West Siiiiiiiiide
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 405
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Clinch type knots are not recommended for some braids due to the slip factor.
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Lookin for my big'un!
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02-10-2004, 04:33 PM
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Authoritaah
Join Date: May 2003
Location: attleboro MA
Posts: 574
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Is it good, or is it Sofa King good?
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02-10-2004, 04:36 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: in a structure with a roof
Posts: 6,049
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uni to uni for mono to braid and braid to floro . I use the palomer for terminal tackle and also the improved clinch knot .
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02-10-2004, 04:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
Posts: 8,555
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I think the polamar is the best knot for tying on a hook , snap or swivel , or jig under most conditions
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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02-10-2004, 08:47 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,615
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I'm a creature of habit and even when the palomar came into popularity, I'd long since been tying the improved clinch. I rarely loose fish due to a bad knot, but then again I close every one wetted and slowly to avoid heat.
For braid no contest uni knot, no damn glue required, no slipping. So it's uni on the braid, improved clinch on my mono, if it ain't broke I'm not fixing it.
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02-11-2004, 12:13 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 4,716
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polamar for braid Trilene for mono
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02-11-2004, 01:51 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Norwell--E.Wareham
Posts: 217
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I*ve been using the Uni-not since it was shown to me about 25 years ago and it seems to work real good on everything up to like 60 lb line then I use nail knot.Another that I use for tuna hooks is Beechers Knot
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02-11-2004, 02:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: .
Posts: 5,935
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Braid to mono/fluoro leader connection: I use a swivel, haven't found a knot that doesn't lead to breakoffs, especially with brittle fluorocarbon leaders.
Mono leader/fluoro to bait hook: Uni knot snell OR clinch knot OR palomar.
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02-11-2004, 02:30 PM
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: massachusetts
Posts: 512
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For the 2 years I've used and tested the berkeley braid knot like macojoe posted I have never had a knot fail with yozuri hybrid, power pro or stealth. Most of the time when the line broke when tested was on the main line, never at the knot.
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02-11-2004, 03:54 PM
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Permanently Disconnected
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,647
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Page 38 of this weeks FISHERMAN magazine has a nice article on tying a stronger knot.
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02-12-2004, 11:23 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Norwell--E.Wareham
Posts: 217
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was looking at the little pic for Berkley braid knot and that IS Beechers Tuna knot.Only difference is they don*t wrap over with electrical tape
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