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Old 03-15-2004, 10:57 PM   #1
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Opinions on the wind farm???

I dont live on the cape, what is the opinion of the wind farm off the cape? It wont impact me at all. It seems like a pretty good idea. And i could do without the power plant on the canal trying to give me a heart attack when it lets off some steam.

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Old 03-16-2004, 07:43 AM   #2
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Old 03-16-2004, 01:14 PM   #3
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I have family in Cotuit and they are for it but they dont own waterfront property.. the people who seem to be really opposed to it are the folks who own houses on the water. The way they see it, but wont mention it, is that that their property value is going to drop if those windmills do go up...... and thats the main reason for their gripe.
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Old 03-16-2004, 05:49 PM   #4
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My understanding from something I read a while ago was that, if it indeed works, little if any of the energy generated by the windmill farm would benefit the residents of the Cape, but they'd probably be paying for it both monetarilay and in some cases having to see the monstrocity on the horizon day in day out. It would also be located smack dab in the middle of a prime fishing and recreational boating area, thus considered a hazard. There's probably some logic behind it, but I truly don't understand why it had to be that exact spot.
Is it that hard to find a place far enough off shore that it can't be seen and doesn't hinder shipping or boating lanes? I'm usually a bit more protective in my neck, but hey, we already have the most toxic dumps in the nation here in NJ, off shore dumping is pretty much the norm, why not put the windmills out where they do all that and rename us "The Garden, Offshore Windmill, and Dumping State". What view are you going to ruin where they already dump garbage and what boater would make it a point of going there on purpose to relax, let alone fish?
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Old 03-16-2004, 05:59 PM   #5
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simplify life....go back to old ways....no on the the wind farm.....IMO

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Old 03-08-2010, 03:55 PM   #6
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simplify life....go back to old ways....no on the the wind farm.....IMO
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Old 03-16-2004, 06:04 PM   #7
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Angry You want my opinion on the wind farm....?

This is the only wind farm that I am in favor of!> Think of all the energy it would create if we could harness the methane gas expended by humans in just one day of fishing??? I think the wind-farm is a bad idea from the start....I liken it to the brilliant idea of the express lane headed into Boston! Stupid, expensive and a huge waste of resources and money and then when it becomes some idiots "folly"....there they will stand, just a huge blight on the landscape! Personally, I don't think it will ever happen!

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Old 03-16-2004, 07:06 PM   #8
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A hazard to fishermen?

Can you imagine just how much baitfish will make the pillars home?!

Freaking tuna heaven during the late summer!@#!!!

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Old 03-16-2004, 08:43 PM   #9
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i heard the opposite

that the windfarm would be so far out that it would be difficult to be seen and that surplus electricity would be sold back to the grid for a state profit. the added structure would most definately increase fishing cover ...most people look out at the waves and see a few sailboat sails and would need binoculars to see them.
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but we have to stop relying on nuclear power plants and fossil fuels at some point as both technologys are polluting the earth
at an alarming pace. barrels of nuclear waste are being stored
inside salt mines deep within the earth. thats crazy! the best sources of power is either solar ,wind, hydro or geothermal to make steam engines run. Other than that hydrogen derived from ethanol seems to be another healthier renewable alternative.
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Old 03-16-2004, 09:11 PM   #10
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you forgot methane










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Old 03-16-2004, 10:16 PM   #11
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Instead of putting it on Horseshoe Shoal do this:

If your in favor of it you get a free 300' turbine in your back yard

This whole thing is ludicrous

Its not a "wind farm" Its an Industrial Site.
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Old 03-17-2004, 07:13 AM   #12
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wave power

i guess it just hasnt come of age yet.
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Old 03-17-2004, 07:47 AM   #13
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Why is it OK to have an "Industrial Site" in rural America where it is relatively sparsly populated, or in the inner city, but it isn't OK to have one where the rich (powerful) live and play???????????

We as a society sometimes need to sacrifice for the better of humanity in the future..............................We need to look at new ways to generate electricity..........

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Old 03-17-2004, 07:54 AM   #14
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I knew I was powerful but rich ?

The sound isn't some wheat field or desert ridge.

No blame to you FP but it seems to be a frequent tactic in politics to play the Blame Game instead of the Facts Jack. That windfarm should be out in the ocean somewhere. Out of visual range. That would shut up all the whiners.
If it isn't good enough then they should bag it.

What is going to happen when all our utilitie costs start going up this summer ?
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Old 03-17-2004, 09:26 AM   #15
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I think it is a good idea, this was also mentioned of a Point Judith before. I think they were talking about 6 miles offshore which I do not think would be too bad. Think about rising energy costs today, natural gas and oil have been very high for the last couple of years now and eventually we are going to deplete these resources if we don't seek alternatives. Of course none of us will probably see that day but how about our kids they might? Also maybe it will lower prices because we won't need to rely solely on gas and oil. They have these wind farms in California it seems to work for them.
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Old 03-17-2004, 02:18 PM   #16
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I live here on the Cape and they say it will be abut 4 miles from me. You ever look at something 4 miles away?? What do you think you are going to see?? I will tell you, not much!!

I think it isa good idea!! We need clean engery and we need start some were.

Why is Horseshoe shoal a good site? well it is close to shore and not very deep. This will make building and supply to the main land a good thing.

Bad for the fish?? I belive it will be a great thing for them!! The bait fish will have a place to hide and make there home. The bigger fish are going to come to were the baitfish are making us all happy!!

Bad thing we will not be able to fish right near them and have to wait till the population exploades the boundry around the area.

The only thing I have against the wind farm is this: We here on the cape pay some of the higest Eletric bill in the state! And we will not benfit from the farm!! All elt. will be sold to the grid and then sold back to us at a profit!!
If we are going to host this site then we should be getting something back form the site!
I don't say this cause I live here!! I think any area that allows a clean air source for power what ever it may be should benfit from it.
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Old 03-17-2004, 02:35 PM   #17
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My take on it is that it's not the terrible idea that everyone immediatly judges it to be...
One simple fact; The north-east as a whole uses an insane amount of energy (fossil fuel, nuclear etc..) but we produce almost none... So I think that if it could lessen the amount of fuel consumed, even by a few % it's not a bad thing...

These things will be well offshore and barely visable to beachgoers/homeowners... just rich people trying to stop a good idea... but to each his own... this is a hotly contested topic, and was a good post....

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Old 03-17-2004, 03:11 PM   #18
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wind farms BLOW !
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Old 03-17-2004, 04:16 PM   #19
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Let see they want to put a three hundred foot wind turbine on my land. If they pay me what the cell phone company pays my culb to have there tower on our land all, i can say is build it baby build it. ThomT
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Old 03-18-2004, 01:09 PM   #20
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Old 03-18-2004, 03:07 PM   #21
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:12 PM   #22
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windfarm definately not

QUOTE: the proposed wind farm off the coast of Massachusetts, for example, seeks to build 130 towers over more than 24 square miles of ocean. The facility would produce only 450 megawatts of power, a relative pittance compared with total demand.
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it would produce only 1 percent of newenglands demand for power and aside from the fact of creating new habitat for the oceans food chain its not even close for a good return on investment....................
that being the 130 statue of liberty sized UGLY metal structures
covered in bird crap. All this.... is a waste. New Englanders could easily find ways of reducing consumption rather than have to navigate around 24 SQUARE MILES or MORE of rusty metal.
I am Voting NO! One percent...try 95 percent! then maybe.130 STATUE OF LIBERTY sized UGLY metal structures for 1% is a JOKE!

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Old 03-19-2004, 10:18 AM   #23
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Old 03-19-2004, 04:26 PM   #24
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I say - Nuclear Power Plant in Holyoke!!!


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Old 03-02-2010, 07:52 PM   #25
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I say - Nuclear Power Plant in Holyoke!!!

Funny you mention nukes. That windfarm represents a nuke plant that won't be built. We need the power, we just don't want to see it. Sometime we can't see anything at all when the power goes out. I'm for it.
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Swimmer, if the Government didn't give public lands to utilitys, we'd have no telephone, no electricity, no gas. We'd be living at early 1800s levels.
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Swimmer, if the Government didn't give public lands to utilitys, we'd have no telephone, no electricity, no gas. We'd be living at early 1800s levels.
Well Said Fred..

now given that...

as we both know.. Wind was invented in Truro..when the wind blows up there on the top of them hills, it howls..

a lot of acres that are not used or accessed much, owned by the Federal Govt. ...

Truro Wind Farm..
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Well Said Fred..

now given that...

as we both know.. Wind was invented in Truro..when the wind blows up there on the top of them hills, it howls..

a lot of acres that are not used or accessed much, owned by the Federal Govt. ...

Truro Wind Farm..
My Grandfather had a windmill that pumped his well. It's been done.
I wonder if the NIMBY crowd would change their minds if their Town got free power for hosting a wind farm..
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Swimmer, if the Government didn't give public lands to utilitys, we'd have no telephone, no electricity, no gas. We'd be living at early 1800s levels.
Last I checked the proposal was to build in the ocean? Soliciting opinions is a dog-and-pony show when you know the answer is 'no' already. It's like trying to business with someone you know you can't make money with as soon as you look at them.

It's also important to note that if the wind farm produces power at 33% more than the current cost of coal burning power plants initially, the frequent increase in electric costs will begin to diminish the inefficiency of the wind farm each time our electric rates go up.

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