When they close the beach---->

[Karl F]

Make sure you Thank whoever did this:

Link to Plover Egg Vandal Story

I'm fuming, this is just plain stupid... if anybody has a clue who this is, PLEASE drop a dime on them, this could have some far reaching effects, that could impact all beach buggy users.
But, it is usually the fisherman, who get shut out of the most prime Real Estate....

These jerks!!!! I'd say more, but this is a family site, and I'm about to get very profane.....

[striprman]

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[Moses]

Pisses me off reading stories like this....

Try this link

www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/vandalssmash11.htm

[Motor Fish]

There's an extra http in the link. Try this one.

http://www.capecodonline.com/cctimes/vandalssmash11.htm

[zacs]

Wow that really pisses me off. Not only because of the possible consequences, but also just the freakin in-humanity of it. Makes me f---in sick.

[striprman]

I'm not surprized How many people have complained that they are upset at beach closures due to piping plovers? I haven't heard anyone ever say "Its a good thing the beach is closed because the plovers are nesting". Still, a very stupid thing.

[JohnR]

Absolute idiots

[Karl F]

Expect closures of one mile on either side of each enclosure from now on, also possible season long closures (May-Sept) This is not going to be good.

strprman, it ain't about the plovers, they are nothing but a pawn in the larger game of access. The anti's have been hoping this would happen for years.... now it has, thanks to some jack-ass!

[Slipknot]

[Slipknot]

I'll put my money on it being an anti that did it

Nobody is that stupid.
If it were a fisherman, they may have just removed the eggs and closed it back up, but doing what has been done is incomprehensible. I sure hope it doesn't end up being one bad apple spoiling the bunch

[Karl F]

Slip, I'm thinking the same thing...
Done during the rain we had the other night... rain and sand, no foot print, no traceable tire print.... only good thing is they can go thru the books and see WHO was punched on at that time, then work thru that list.......
even if they catch the guy, there will still be a battle to close more ground, this I have been promised


of all the weekends for this to happen, kids graduation, parties, houseguests, co-worker broke one or both wrists this AM, still haven't heard back, I might have to work thru sopme of my kids stuff, plus I got my cell ringing and email flying on this......
anybody fishing??? wish the hell I was!

[pops02]

i was out on the public beach this am, fishing from 5:00 to 6:45 am, got the ole skunk .

[bassmaster]

KARL CALL ME 508 6549897

[chris L]

Ill bet its a bird poop person who did it . what better way to shut down access to a beach . Most fishermen wouldnt even bother with such a thing . no matter how mad they were with closures and restrictions due to the birds . could also be a teenage thing .

[MAC]

After reading this the first thing that came to mind was what Slip stated above. I really wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the anti's.

[Matty]

I guess that people will never learn. Find the son of a B

[redneck24]

thats assanine, i will never now what type of joy morons get out of sensless crap like this.

[Karl F]

Originally posted by bassmaster
KARL CALL ME

Done, left ya message.

[Backbeach Jake]

There will always be more horse's a$$es than horses. Senseless disrespect of life. They should be banned from the Planet.

[Maloney]

senseless...Melvin got his two cents in, I see. Worse incident since 1990 ? That's a long time without trouble and a very fine record, I say. I guess would fall on deaf ears, in the anti movement.

[denport]

I hope I get a chance to find out who the little bass-turds are and give them a piece of plywood myself. People like that really make my quite angry. This is probably worse than hering poachers and spot jumpers. GRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

[JohnR]

Originally posted by denport
This is probably worse than hering poachers and spot jumpers. GRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

Uhh, yeh. Definitely worse...

[tlapinski]

this sucks! why haven't these birds been taken off the endangered list? it was my understanding that they have achieved poulations #'s to get them up to the next level of protection, which would lessen the restrictions. i know the population in RI is fluorishing! see those damn things all the time. a good dozen or so nests on "my" beach right now.

one thing from the article which struck me as odd was this:

Normally, once chicks hatch, there is a two-month period when areas are closed until the chicks can fly.

for the beach in RI i deal with it is a 28 day wait. local regulations on the cape?

[capesams]

I predict in the next few years, all cape beaches will be closed to the general public for driving on...over crowding, winter storms, birds[bird lover's] and just the plain lack of something to drive on.

and the only people that will be aloud on are the bird lovers..seen it happen on monnomy.

[MikeTLive]

There is a nest every year near a spot I have been fishin.
last year they nested in the golf course parking lot too.
didnt close the lot, just put up a few cones and some yellow tape.
I kind of like watchin the eggs till they hatch.

Why they think closing off the beaches will make a difference I dont know.

maybe that's it. They dont think it will make a difference.
Heck, with the coyote population as it is on cape I bet they are a bigger threat to the birds than any @$$hole with a piece of wood.

[likwid]

Originally posted by capesams
I predict in the next few years, all cape beaches will be closed to the general public for driving on...over crowding, winter storms, birds[bird lover's] and just the plain lack of something to drive on.

and the only people that will be aloud on are the bird lovers..seen it happen on monnomy.

Exercise never hurt anyone.

Its complete closures of the beaches we should be terrified of.

[jugstah]

Originally posted by likwid
Exercise never hurt anyone.

Its complete closures of the beaches we should be terrified of.

Exercise does hurt the old fogey who just had a quadruple bypass and etc...

[Karl F]

Originally posted by capesams
I predict in the next few years, all cape beaches will be closed to the general public for driving on...

A Steve... don't wish it on us too soon.... just imagine the boat traffic!!!!!!! Hafta start filming at the boat ramps, as much as goes on now, can you even wonder how it will be if there is no beach! I'll probably not hafta buy a boat then, just walk across the bows, till I find a good spot

[Karl F]

Originally posted by jugstah
Exercise does hurt the old fogey who just had a quadruple bypass and etc...

Im a fat old fart with arthritis in both ankles and knees, and lower back, and I can make it from the fence at ten (opposite the fish pier in Chatham) to the main lot in Orleans, in one hour and forty five minutes. Motrin 600's are a beautiful thing!
However, I wouldn't recommend that walk to anyone!

[Karl F]

Originally posted by tlapinski
this sucks! why haven't these birds been taken off the endangered list? it was my understanding that they have achieved poulations #'s to get them up to the next level of protection, which would lessen the restrictions. i know the population in RI is fluorishing! see those damn things all the time. a good dozen or so nests on "my" beach right now.

one thing from the article which struck me as odd was this: for the beach in RI i deal with it is a 28 day wait. local regulations on the cape?

They have been taken off endangered, the are now on the "threatened" list. All States vary, and it is up to the department head in charge. In our case, Mr. Melvin.... who would just as soon close it down, and be done with it. If not for Beach Managers who fight for the right to keep the beaches open, the HUGE revenue derived from same, and groups like MBBA, and UMS, they would already be closed..... look how much driveable beach has been lost in RI and Mass over the last 25 years... RIMS was very smart, when they bought all that beach front property in your state.
Like I said in an earlier reply... it is not about the Plovers, they are a pawn in the much Larger Game of Access... you just have to understand, there are people who feel no-one has the right to access the beach... by foot, or by vehicle, and they will use any means nesescary to achieve their goal.