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07-29-2004, 08:14 AM
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Saw Something Strange This AM
Was out fishing this morning and saw a decent size striper floating on top of the water. He was alive and trying to swim down but his belly looked all distended and inflated. Try as he may he couldn't swim down and just floated on by.
Any of you guys ever see anything like that before or know what might have caused it. Just curious.
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07-29-2004, 08:37 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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havn't seen this with stripers, but i know that some deep water species will have inflated swim bladders when brought up from depts and actually have to be deflated before release.
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07-29-2004, 08:38 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Quote:
Originally posted by afterhours
havn't seen this with stripers, but i know that some deep water species will have inflated swim bladders when brought up from depts and actually have to be deflated before release.
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That would be my guess, too. Someone caught him in deeper water and released him with a distended swim bladder.
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07-29-2004, 08:46 AM
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Also known as OAK
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Took a 27lber years back in100+ ft of water bluefishing (yeah, i said it) anyways, I remember he didnt look to happy when we brought him up, but.. bis belly wasn't all distended etc..
TDF, maybe he needed some tums??
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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07-29-2004, 08:50 AM
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In a situation like that when you reel in a striper from those depths, what do you do? is there anything one can do?
is this similiar to the malady that a diver suffers when coming up too fast from those depths?
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"Remember Amateurs built the Ark -- Professionals built the Titanic."
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07-29-2004, 09:41 AM
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Get a small pin and gently puncture the swim bladder if it is reachable. The swim bladder will eventually heal, and you'll have given the fish a fighting chance to survive.
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07-29-2004, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by fishweewee
Get a small pin and gently puncture the swim bladder if it is reachable. The swim bladder will eventually heal, and you'll have given the fish a fighting chance to survive.
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I thought about that but he was to far out to reach.
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07-29-2004, 10:09 AM
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for those of us unfamilar /w striper anatomy and who dont want to turn the poor fish into a pin cussion where's the swim bladder? i saw that happen once b4 had no clue y
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07-29-2004, 10:25 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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07-29-2004, 11:37 AM
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Poorly released fish. Had one 20lb fish go belly up after release (slipped out) on a boat this year. Circled around to re-grab and resucitate.
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07-29-2004, 12:44 PM
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Is it May yet?
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I was with DF and saw the upside-down pufferbelly of a striper as well. After reading the linked article all I can say is that I would have tossed a plug out and snagged the fish but.... I do not have a hyperdermic needle handy in my tackle box (I am not a junkie), nor do I carry a carpet needle or a ball inflation needle with me (who does?)on a regular basis. I guess I should toss those items in the back of my truck.... just in case!
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07-29-2004, 01:24 PM
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viva the plug-o-lution
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when that happens to cod and stuff, i just squeezem a little and they deflate. it works.
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live to fish. fish to live. rod tips high.
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07-29-2004, 01:30 PM
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This happens alot of the time when I am boat fishing the reefs in 30 plus feet of water this time of year. It seems to happen once the water temps enter the mid 60s. In the spring and fall it is a non issue. I have been puncturing the abdomen to vent the air. It seems to work, the fish are at least able to swim down without floating back up.
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07-29-2004, 03:12 PM
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When I lived down in Long Island, I came across the same thing. Turned the boat around and netted the 20lb bass that was floundering on the surface. In its mouth was a 16" fluke stuck right in its gullet. Fish could not get back down with this fluke stuck in its mouth. Pulled the fluke out and the bass swam away just fine.
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07-29-2004, 04:39 PM
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Authoritaah
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I saw this happen to eben one evening after feasting on mexican food. Fortunately the situation resolved itself in the form of a pleasant fart, and we didn't have to puncture him. His waders on the other hand were filled beyond capacity and blew apart at the seams with a loud BANG, and a green cloud. We were fishing the upper bay in late august when this happened, and it is believed that this was a contributing factor to the fish kill.
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Is it good, or is it Sofa King good?
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07-29-2004, 09:43 PM
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All I can picture now is that 3 Stooges episode about the Wrong Brothers. When Moe falls into the vat of liquid rubber and they inflate him w/ helium to try and get it off. 
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07-29-2004, 10:54 PM
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Old Timer
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Have seen fish up on surface many times over the years and each time found that the fish had another fish in it's mouth or throat. They get a bait fish stuck and can't get it out and cannot manuver properly with the mouth wide open.
If you see one in distress you should really try to help by netting or mouth gaffing and then clearing the obstruction.
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07-30-2004, 07:04 AM
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Wishin' for fishin'
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it's not uncommon to find large fish floating on the surface, either dead or near death, during the hottest months of summer.
"The fish actually died of natural causes," he explained. "but the circumstances are specific to large fish. As fish grow, they are forced to live in cooler water. The larger the fish, the colder the water needs to be. During the summer, when the surface temperatures rise, the larger fish must go deeper to find the colder water. But this separates them from their prey base.
"When they come to the surface to feed, lactic acid starts to build up. If the fish spends too much time chasing food or stays in the warmer water too long, they're not able to get back down and they die."
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07-30-2004, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by blackeye
I saw this happen to eben one evening after feasting on mexican food. Fortunately the situation resolved itself in the form of a pleasant fart, and we didn't have to puncture him. His waders on the other hand were filled beyond capacity and blew apart at the seams with a loud BANG, and a green cloud. We were fishing the upper bay in late august when this happened, and it is believed that this was a contributing factor to the fish kill.
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Oh, good, I thought you were going to say you had to use the Heimlich maneuver and give Eben mouth-to-mouth. 
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07-30-2004, 11:26 AM
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When in doubt....Fish!
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puuuuuu, sounds like Eben needs to stop eating a Poncho's before a night of fishing 
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07-30-2004, 04:09 PM
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Authoritaah
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Quote:
Originally posted by fishweewee
Oh, good, I thought you were going to say you had to use the Heimlich maneuver and give Eben mouth-to-mouth.
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not that time 
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Is it good, or is it Sofa King good?
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07-30-2004, 04:30 PM
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Hey....
Notice blackeye said I ripped a 'pleasant' phart....Does this mean it was pleasant for him to smell??
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