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08-12-2004, 05:23 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Pedros First Shutout In Four Years???
There is another great arguement for me when I am trying to convince people that Pedro is not and never has been nearly as dominant a pitcher as Roger Clemens.  I like Pedro and believe he is a very good pitcher, ok even great! But when you call someone a dominant pitcher and he takes four years between shutouts????  No reason for discussion there!
By the way....the last couple games...Pedro has been awesome! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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08-12-2004, 05:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
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WHO CARES ABOUT PEDRO!!!!
THE REAL GAME IS ON TONIGHT ON ESPN,
FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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08-12-2004, 06:05 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Whitman,Ma.
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Are you ready for some FOOTBALL !!!!!!!!! 
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I'm going where I'm going...
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08-12-2004, 06:38 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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08-12-2004, 06:40 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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i think is was a dominate picther 3or 4 yeasr ago, and now is a very good picther, just my opion.
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08-13-2004, 09:56 AM
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Greatness
Join Date: Apr 2004
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I believe that Clemens has Pedro on the whole consistency and being good for a very long time. But, in the past seven or eight years Pedro has clearly been the most dominant pitcher. For the past five years his ERA has been under 2.5, and Clemens hasn't done that yet. Also, he has gotten over 300 strikeouts twice in the past seven years, and Clemens hasn't even done that once in his entire career.
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Stay classy
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08-13-2004, 09:57 AM
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Greatness
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Stay classy
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08-13-2004, 03:22 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Indianapolis, IN
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These days fewer and fewer shutouts are being thrown by all pitchers due to the fact that managers go to the bullpen instead of letting the starters complete the game.
I'd be curious to know how many times Pedro has been pulled after pitching 7 or 8 shut-out innings
Bernzy
Last edited by Bernzy; 08-13-2004 at 06:05 PM..
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08-13-2004, 03:31 PM
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DDG-51
Join Date: Mar 2002
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He didn't have a 3 ball count until the 9th inning. That was a dominating performance.
It is funny how he's been consistantly hitting mid 90mph the second 1/2 of the season, with his contract just about up...
GO SOX, I don't care who's on the team I just root for the team of players that wear Boston on thier shirts.
GO RED SOX.
Tonight is Contraras who has a 17 era at Fenway, I wonder who the favorite is?
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08-13-2004, 04:21 PM
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With Contraras pitching tonight ole Dale Swain should have a lot of chances waving players on to home from third base..Yikes 
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08-13-2004, 05:02 PM
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Below Me
Join Date: May 2003
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That was impressive. 9-1 since late May.
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08-13-2004, 05:02 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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hopefully ole greenlight sveum will have a feild day!!!
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08-15-2004, 09:20 PM
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i think you are splitting hairs. nobody pitches complete games anymore.
take clemens back in '86 his best year and he stunk in the playoffs. pedro never pitches well against the yankees. those are the things i remember when talking about these pitchers.
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08-15-2004, 09:39 PM
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Registered User
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Hey BF, When is the last complete game Roger had ??
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08-16-2004, 09:55 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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2003 with the Yankees he had 1 complete game and he is......."40"? 
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08-30-2004, 07:55 AM
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Location: Mass.
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I would not be surprised if they let Pedro go. Seems like he is playing mind games with Red Sox management when the mentioned subject comes up, "$$$" Has an inflated ego ,it's time to show him the door!
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