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StriperTalk! All things Striper |
View Poll Results: Bait or Plugs
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BAIT
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PLUGS
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12-27-2001, 07:40 PM
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Scomber scombrus
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Quincy Ma.
Posts: 604
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Herring
I fished with live bait anytime I can find it ( herring sometimes macks).
What are you folks using most of the time live bait or plugs,jigs and that stuff
I may do some topwater pluging but for me most of my time is spent with live bait.
If you are into live bait how are you getting them sabiki or net ?
BTW Do we have ice yet on the cape ?
Last edited by Backbeach Jake; 12-04-2005 at 09:00 AM..
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12-27-2001, 08:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Bristol, Rhode Island
Posts: 438
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Well I love using plugs also i consider eels to be a plug in this. So i will go with plugs even though some of my biggest fish have come off bait. I catch far more fish with plugs than bait but my fish tend to be bigger fishing bait.
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12-27-2001, 09:14 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
Posts: 6,234
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I love herring,  , I usually net mine in Watertown. You will find me this spring at Nut Island with a tank full.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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12-27-2001, 09:20 PM
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#4
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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I'd really have to add another choice on the poll. I use what I think is best or what I want to use at a particular time. I love live-linning macs or buckey's but at times I like to use plugs or live eels - kinda crossing the world of bait & plug
Most of the time? Eels...
Last edited by JohnR; 12-28-2001 at 07:57 AM..
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
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12-27-2001, 10:52 PM
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Slow Droppin' Skins
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Walpole
Posts: 206
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Herring- 5%
Eels- 10%
Eel skin jigs- 75%
Plugs- 5%
Other Jigs- 5%
-If herring were around longer and I didn't have to drive 45 min in the opposite direction (of the canal) to get them they would be a higher %.
-Eels catch more consistent 36-43" fish but the jigs did better last year and were more consitent with fish of all sizes, plus some bigger ones.
-LAST SEASON I barely touched my breaking tide plug selection because the topwater was so non-existent and small.
-I caught a couple nice fish on bucktails this fall in the afternoon, but that was because I was in the area, had a window and got lucky. Didn't use them becuase I barely fished daylight last season, why use a bucktail when you've got skins?
East Tide
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East Tide
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12-28-2001, 08:06 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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The best thing is really using what's best at that particular time. Odds are you'll do better with live mackeral than a mackeral swimmer but you are using them when the macs are around. Same goes for herring or menhaden. The few people that manage to keep herring alive well into July in swiming pools and such do really well when the bait has moved on  . Many people plugging are using plugs that somewhat represent the live bait at the time...
(I haven't had my coffee yet, I appologize if I make no sense  )
Of course, eels work just about all night all season long
BTW - I use a Christmas Tree / Sabiki Rig for macks and I net Herring at the runs - legally 
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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12-28-2001, 08:13 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: in a structure with a roof
Posts: 6,049
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Ill use anything to catch fish ! it depends where Im fishing and my mood . Mostly I use live eels followed by plugs . I jig and plug the ditch . I plug and eel open beaches . I eel in breachways mostly and I chunk macs and bunker in Ct waters . I fly fish and use lures on trout . also occationally Ill use worms with the kids . I also Ice fish with large suckers and small minnows and jigs .
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12-28-2001, 10:11 PM
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here fishy fishy
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: westport,ma.
Posts: 3,111
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chunk maybe 60% of the time
eels dead or alive(prefer live) 35% of the time
plug or lures when i see em or have nothing else 5%
live bait is the way to go, just hard to come by in my neck of the woods.
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redcrbbr
of all the things i've lost...i miss my mind the most!!
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12-28-2001, 10:19 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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Do werms count as bait?
Hey, what's the matter? doesn't anyone want to break the 2-2 tie?
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12-29-2001, 09:07 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Wakefield, RI
Posts: 298
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I go fishing before dawn, from March through December, or until there don't seem to be any fish around. About half the time I'll go out at sunset too.
I use plugs, jigs, cokahoes, sluggos most of the time, usually with teasers, but live line when I have something live: herring in spring, pogies, macks, baby blues, shad, small dogs, cats, tropical fish, and eels at other times. I get eels with my own pots (buy them when pots are empty the evening before), herring at the South County runs, everything else with darts, jigs, Sabiki rigs, cast net, etc.
Most favoritist: surface plugging for cows off Matunuck, Narragansett, Scarborough, Pt. Jude, East Matunuck, southern beaches, on balmy summer-fall mornings/evenings. 
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12-29-2001, 09:11 AM
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Ban Sluggos
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: east taunton, ma
Posts: 363
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give me a basket of live pogies any day of the week...oh wait a minute, i fish mass, and i haven't livelined a pogy in over 5 years
i love candy in early to mid may but by the end of may, early june i'm sick of them...putting the livewell in and out of the truck, grabbing the nets, waders, boots, buckets, rods, basket...gets to be kindof a pain...i've tried different ways of keeping some alive into june with very limited results...i know some guys have got systems worked out to let them do this but i was never interested in dropping big dollars of lots of time on it...
i used to like eels, til i discovered sluggos... 
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12-29-2001, 10:28 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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As strictly a shore guy, I'm a die-hard plugger but I always have my ace in the hole with me which is a soft lunch cooler with a half a dozen live eels in it. I never leave home without 'em.
This past year I found eels were the only thing they'd hit consistently after going thru my bag and giving all of the old reliables a good shot at it. But I always start with plugs.
I rarely fish chunks, although I'd be the first one to tell ya that fresh chunks - after live-lining - are gonna drop the biggest fish. I just can't make myself sit on a bucket of pogies that long and though I may fish bait once or twice a year, I didn't fish bait at all this past season. It's usually a desperation move for me to pull out of a batting slump.
Joe and Bobby at Edwards always do a major double take if I go into the shop for pogies instead of plugs.
This coming year? I've got some eel-skin jigs and plugs that are finally gonna get a work-out, I'd love to live-line herring but my schedule at that time of year makes it tough for me to catch and maintain 'em. The missus is already pretty good about my eel-grooming and the patio live-well.
Oh yeah, and this coming year I'm gonna try flyfishing - picked up a custom Loomis 10 wt. and an old Battenkill for a starter set-up - plus 2 dozen flies I won, so I guess I'm good to go.
It's gonna be interesting, being a complete rookie at something on the backside of the half-century mark. 
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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12-29-2001, 10:32 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
Posts: 11,786
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Chris
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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12-29-2001, 10:35 AM
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Plug Builder in Training
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: wareham MA
Posts: 4,046
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sence no one else answered this in their posts. there is no ice on the cape . 
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12-29-2001, 11:30 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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My poll answer - Both...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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12-29-2001, 12:13 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,619
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If available, I'd take a large bunker over any live bait and I think the big stripers would too. The problem is there haven't been any adults in Mass Bay for years, at least not in any numbers that would make it worth chasing them for bait. Next in line for me would be macs and my best day last year for large was on dead tinker macs. Personally, I wouldn't and haven't wasted the time necessary to even try live herring. I've almost always got a live eel dragging during the pre-dawn hours, but I have to say that live eels last year produced squat. I'm definately going to fish down south a little earlier for stripers and blues with the live hickory shad. Those fish not only give you a nice fight on the freshwater gear, but then you can slap them on a larger outfit and expect some more fun.
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12-30-2001, 11:18 AM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,277
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here fishee fisheee....
...My first choice would be live Pogies~ Second live Scup ~ Third live Eels~4th live Mackerel.......then live Herring  ......my order changes from year to year, so don't hold me to it
...do I chunk ? yes, didn't chunk much last year but I chunk...its usually the pole sitting to the left/right of me...with the drag adjusted properly...I will usually chunk when I plan to stay in one spot for a length of time.....which didn't happen much last stripa semister ....I like to walk, sorry JohnR...  even though I have a boater'r body too....
...hey GS, I often fart around with the Hickories in Pt. Judes pond...and they're huge.....around 18" What a battle on light tackle   .... What size Shad are you catching/using?...Due to the size of the Shad I've caught, I ruled them out as far as livelining...always felt they were too big ?..I've chunked them with no results, cept the occasional cousin crab...gettin a free bee....
Last edited by bloocrab; 12-30-2001 at 11:24 AM..
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12-30-2001, 11:37 AM
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Ban Sluggos
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: east taunton, ma
Posts: 363
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hickory shad too big??...i used to think so too til i caught a 30" plymouth bass on a 16" hick...my biggest bass to date (29lb) took a hick even bigger than that...don't underestimate what a bass will eat, and the big bait will keep the schoolies away...
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12-30-2001, 12:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 936
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Clammer did you say CHUBS! I can never get the big ones any more, they work great on the Cape when there is ice! Oh the Poll, depends I have been getting away from bait fishing but if I want fish when the bite is slow give me a cooler of pogies or macs and I set up a chum line in the Ditch that will always get me some action!
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Canalratt1
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12-30-2001, 01:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
Posts: 11,786
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BOTH!!!!
Canal, I:ve got all you need ,let me know if you need some
P>S> gonna feed them some flounder this afternoon !!!!
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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