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Raider Ronnie · 07-16-2005, 10:19 PM

No commercial fishing for me tomorrow!
Taking the family out for some jiggin!
All family members are MSBA members!
Weight slips will be mailed out for club derby!!!

BigFish · 07-16-2005, 10:21 PM

Ron.....rules is rules....is tomorrow a commercial day?

Raider Ronnie · 07-16-2005, 10:39 PM

No person making a living from commercial fishing, including guides, party boat skippers, & crews, will be elegible to enter fish caught while working at their trade.
Entries will be accepted if the aforementioned are fishing privately for their own personal pleasure & not with a paying party.

You tell me!!!
I'll be getting LOTS of personal pleasure watching the family bringing in fish all day and I won't be charging them, or selling the fish!!!

fishermom · 07-17-2005, 08:39 PM

Hey BF...........

According to rule 24, he is ok if fishing for pleasure. If I'm reading that wrong, please correct me.

beamie · 07-18-2005, 10:30 AM

Allot of clubs have this rule about a tourney fish not caught while comm or charter fishing. Never quite understood it though. As long as the person who hooked it lands it what is the problem. Who cares where the fish ends up after the fact.

What it boils down to is this. Most anglers are jealous that some of the comm/charter guys are better fisherman and therefore catch more fish. Therefore they curve the rules to there favor. The comm angler/charter guys just simply put in more time than most on the water and that is sometimes the only reason they catch more and maybe some are better. But still simply most jealously by one group over another.

Bake Mellow · 07-18-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by beamie

What it boils down to is this. Most anglers are jealous that some of the comm/charter guys are better fisherman and therefore catch more fish.

Spoken like a true com. guy.....

Raider Ronnie · 07-18-2005, 09:10 PM

I think this argument about cullin is stupid!!!
If you want to get a fish to weigh in, you will be targeting size (lbs)
Not the number of fish you get!!!
I've been out days this year when we were looking for fish 40lbs and up,
and kept releasing fish 20 - 25 lbs all day long !!!
Recreational guys can do the same thing if they want to put the time in!!!

CAL · 07-18-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

I think this argument about cullin is stupid!!!
If you want to get a fish to weigh in, you will be targeting size (lbs)
Not the number of fish you get!!!

Yeah but if you able to fish as a comm. you can get a 35 and keep it, get a 38 and keep it, get a 41 and keep it and get a 43 and keep it and so on and so on.

The rec gets a 35 and keeps it, now he has to decide whether to keep that 40 he gets or toss it and hope for larger or that his 35 holds up. He only gets one chance to make that choice. The guy fishing commercially would get 29 chances.

RR- I know I quoted you but this is more aimed at Beamie as he seems to think the recs are just jealous of the comms.

Raider Ronnie · 07-19-2005, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CAL

Yeah but if you able to fish as a comm. you can get a 35 and keep it, get a 38 and keep it, get a 41 and keep it and get a 43 and keep it and so on and so on.

The rec gets a 35 and keeps it, now he has to decide whether to keep that 40 he gets or toss it and hope for larger or that his 35 holds up. He only gets one chance to make that choice. The guy fishing commercially would get 29 chances.

RR- I know I quoted you but this is more aimed at Beamie as he seems to think the recs are just jealous of the comms.

My point is not about the number of chances you get.
Right now you would need a fish over 52lbs from surf, over 39lbs from boat!
If you want to get on the board or in the lead for the club, why would you keep any fish smaller than one of those sizes!
Just keep releasing fish till you get a 53lb fish from surf or a 40 from a boat!!!

As for the jealousy thing,
I'm not saying I agree with that or not, It all comes down to putting time in, and someone who puts more time in will obviously catch more fish!!! I put atleast 300 hrs on my boat a year, most boat guys who fish don't put a 100 hrs on their boat in a year!!!
But when it comes to surf guys to boat guys, I DO think there is a LOT of jealousy !!! It all comes down to $$$$$$$

JohnR · 07-19-2005, 07:05 AM

I think it is an issue of leveling the playing field as much as possible. If guy A is commercial fishing, he has the opportunity to keep the 30 odd fish and select one to weigh in, the recreational angler has the opportunity to catch two. This is not a level playing field.

zacs · 07-19-2005, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

My point is not about the number of chances you get.
Right now you would need a fish over 52lbs from surf, over 39lbs from boat!
If you want to get on the board or in the lead for the club, why would you keep any fish smaller than one of those sizes!
Just keep releasing fish till you get a 53lb fish from surf or a 40 from a boat!!!

Listen to yourself. Then consider this situation. Say I am fishing [rec] from my boat and I catch a 40. Obviously I keep it. WOOHOO!!!! Now I jig up a 41. Tough decission. Keep or go for something bigger to really seal the deal. What do I do? You are not faced with that decission as a Comm. Period. You keep that fish, and then you catch & keep a 42, and then a 43, and the next 26 more fish you get. ITS NOT FAIR. You have an advantage.

I'm not even in your club, but from an outsider's prespective, the reason for the rule is totally obvious.

_Z_