SPOTS

[fishaholic18]

This is probably gonna start a huge war but I want to ask this.
Do you give up you're spots??????

Myself and my fishing partner(Canalman), put in some serious time spot hunting and we go through extreme measures to access some of our spots. It has paid off bigtime for us. I hate holding my spots too myself, but would never give them up(sworn to oath) in fear of others ruining them. It's a sad thing and it really bothers me sometimes because I'm not like that. It's just too bad that fishing turns guys into A-holes(like me) because we CAN'T trust people with our PRECIOUS SPOTS!!! Yes, my spots are PRECIOUS to me. It's just too bad that we can't share and trust....Life would be so much better!
I just want to see what others thoughts are on this subject.
There are still certain guys that I will fish with in my spots, because I know they will respect them. Or at least I think!!!
P.S. Sorry John..This will surely keep you busy but I had to ask...

[bassmaster]

Bud, all I can tell You is Im old school.
and been burned big time by quite a few people
the crouds change through the years. But I know one thing rocks dont move and sand does.
If I told you a stage of the tide and to be some where I would be po'd if ya showed up with a clan.

[Skitterpop]

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[Mike P]

Depends on the guy and the spot.

It's that simple. Good guy, knows how to clam up if he hits a good bite, and the spot can take pressure, fine. Same guy, different spot, one that only a couple of people can fish the right way-- nope

[bassmaster]

mike we use to be able to tell who was there by there water mark in may an june. ( goin round corners makes water marks)
Ya never blew the valve where ya fished. herring juce tells all.
some of the funny stuff that went on when i lived in falmouth.
the guys never thought to look in my live well when it was emty.
A guy I know , we talked in code and lied like bastages to each other and fished together.
any way he show up on nauset alittle late, He had a hard time findin herrin
any way he standin by my red ford and askin any fish and I was beatin round the bush,
this is to funny. He was standin on my fish I buried and I said nothin really or nothing big and the friggen fish did a tail flip. to funny.
I got a real good mashpees herrin run story to lol,,,,,

[Clammer]

what Mike P said //

But also ya get to a point in life & ya think about all the things ,Tricks <places , that are in your memory bank ,thru hard work or some kind fisherman /// do ya want to take ya knowledge with ya when ya go // or do you let it out /& if sooooooooooo to who & when /// I have no one to hand my knowledge down too // someone should know about the banking rocks trick //.<.,., Its something I have been pondering == give it all up now & then live a while longer hoping I don,t get burned while I,m alive // or seeing that we don,t know when its time [[usually]] I may want to let go /but not right now // & then something happens & I can,t ////

this is all kinda stupid /because between the internet & good fisherman writing pretty accurate articles [[OH BOY]] on places , and how too,s // I call it selling your souls for a few bucks // its not very difficult to become a descent fisherman without doing any heavy duty homework ..,.

[snake slinger]

loose lips sink ships

[piemma]

I agree with Mike P. Depends on the guy and the spot. My partner knows all my secret spots. He's the only one. The other guys I fish with occasionally know SOME of my secret spots. But, let's face it. How secret are our spots? Joe Pagano at Nelsons in P-Town use to tell me that the bass have been going to the same spots for 1000 years. The structure may change and move around but the bass will be in the vicinity.

[Flaptail]

Originally Posted by Clammer

what Mike P said //

But also ya get to a point in life & ya think about all the things ,Tricks <places , that are in your memory bank ,thru hard work or some kind fisherman /// do ya want to take ya knowledge with ya when ya go // or do you let it out /& if sooooooooooo to who & when /// I have no one to hand my knowledge down too // someone should know about the banking rocks trick //.<.,., Its something I have been pondering == give it all up now & then live a while longer hoping I don,t get burned while I,m alive // or seeing that we don,t know when its time [[usually]] I may want to let go /but not right now // & then something happens & I can,t ////

this is all kinda stupid /because between the internet & good fisherman writing pretty accurate articles [[OH BOY]] on places , and how too,s // I call it selling your souls for a few bucks // its not very difficult to become a descent fisherman without doing any heavy duty homework ..,.

Selling my soul for a few bucks? I don't need anyone's "spots" and don't we have anything of value to dicuss here on this board anymore besides spot insecurity? Unbeleivable...................

[JohnR]

Flap - give us something good to discuss, dig into your Bag-O-Tricks and start a worthwhile topic, PLEASE

The summer doldrums are almost as bad as the cabin fever shaknasties...

I can't WAIT for the fall run to start...

[spence]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Depends on the guy and the spot. It's that simple.

Exactly.

It's great to share, but pressure is pressure and any location can get cut off if it's threshold is reached.

-spence

[eelman]

Originally Posted by bassmaster

Bud, all I can tell You is Im old school.
and been burned big time by quite a few people
the crouds change through the years. But I know one thing rocks dont move and sand does.
If I told you a stage of the tide and to be some where I would be po'd if ya showed up with a clan.

exactly amen brother!

[Nebe]

I got a couple spots no body knows about.. some know the general area, but they dont know the exact location..

Its going to stay that way for a long time-

greedy?? maybe. protective?? yes.

[Canalman]

Greg,

I'm not sure if that was a dig or a complement... . I have written only a few spot specific articles and I have gotten flack about it only once. I try HARD not to write about spots but sometimes they are assigned to me and I have to, well I guess I could say no... in fact I have once or twice. It's funny though when I have written a "spot specific" article I have never seen an increase in fishing pressure. Could be that people think I suck, or the spots I write about are too far off the beaten path or people just read the Fisherman on the toilet and forget what they read by next weeks issue.... I really don't know........ but I do read it on the toilet

-Dave

[kippy]

Fisherman and On the water are in my bathroom library!

[JohnR]

Dave - people think you suck...


One thing I hate is that the maggies (and some sites and people) focus so much on spots spots spots followed with reports and reports. Obviously, that is where there bread and butter readership drives them to, but rarely does a proctectionist mentality creep into the articles.

How many articles have you seen that the author says access is private or cutting through yards?

It is one thing to show someone you trust HOW to quietly and respectfuly access an area, especially private, it is quite another to post about accessing a place that is mostly private with little proper public access and get people all juiced up to get into a place. Then some of these people, not courteous of the area, go an eff it all up making noise, leaving trash, cutting through yards.

I can honestly say, and we'll use "Q" for an example, that the amount of traffic across private land to access a public space is ruining it just as fast as the excessive traffic that can be read online, in the mags, or at the local baitshops. If you go to "C" you don't need to violate any of that but at "Q" you do. So when/if we lose "Q", who is at fault?

[eelman]

Originally Posted by Eben

I got a couple spots no body knows about.. some know the general area, but they dont know the exact location..

Its going to stay that way for a long time-

greedy?? maybe. protective?? yes.

jeez, you guys slam me for this stuff but you all do it!

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

jeez, you guys slam me for this stuff but you all do it!

One of those spots we both fish

The others you know about.. and eels are not allowed.

[Rockport24]

Originally Posted by Eben

I got a couple spots no body knows about.. some know the general area, but they dont know the exact location..

Its going to stay that way for a long time-

greedy?? maybe. protective?? yes.

I think this is the key, most people know general locations, but it's those special rocks, or that little hole you found that need to be protected. Those spots where there is only room for one or two people.
Although I thought I found a couple a special rock only to show up one day to a few people fishing from it, it was on supposedly private property also, go figure...

[Backbeach Jake]

Nothing's worse than sharing a spot and not being able to use it again because it's crowded. The feeling of betrayal by your bud and stupidity by yourself is awful. I'm ultra careful now.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

Nothing's worse than sharing a spot and not being able to use it again because it's crowded.

Had a guy write an article in one of the local fishing magazines about a spot. Gave exact directions including where to park, everything but a GPS cordinate.Ten years ago ya had to work to get there but could fish it alone.

Now it's elbow to elbow.:angry: Won't go back.

Ran into a guy who lives 3 hours away from the spot who had fished it 2 days before and was going back on the weekend. Lives 3 hours away but knows about the spot.

How much could he have made on the article to make it worth loosing the spot for the rest of his life, let alone mine.

[bassmaster]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

exactly amen brother!

#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& I know some thing an i wanna tell ya but i cant and its killin me cause i know u wanna phish it.

[nightfighter]

My best spots are accessible through private propetry, or a long trek from public way. Anyone I've taken has been told in advance that it is MY access, gained from the landowner, and they are welcome today but it's not available unless I give an invite. Sounds pompous? I don't care. Got over twenty properties to access. I also don't let my 12 yr old son go through on his own yet. While he has had a quantum leap in his fishing skill and interest, I am more comfortable walking him through personally. I'll probably let him out on his own next year, after he has read this thread in order to understand the process of how one selects who you bring where..... He's become my best fishing companion.

[fishweewee]

Q is easy to get around.

Just float in your wetsuit out to the tip of the breachway. Hope you're a good swimmer.