2005 PIPING PLOVER NUMBERS DOWN

[tattoobob]

2005 PIPING PLOVER NUMBERS DOWN

MassWildlife has compiled figures for piping plovers with data gathered through the cooperation of nearly 70 biologists and beach managers from state and federal agencies, local municipalities and private conservation groups. A total of 475 pairs of Piping Plovers nested at 109 sites on Massachusetts coastal beaches. This represents a 3% decline from last year’s 490 pairs. Dr. Scott Melvin, Senior Zoologist for MassWildlife, noted that the average number of chicks fledged per pair was only 1.0; below the minimum reproductive success needed to sustain Massachusetts’ breeding population of Piping Plovers. "This year’s low reproductive success is due in part to two spring coastal storms that destroyed many nests," said.Melvin. He also said that loss of eggs and unfledged chicks to a variety of avian and mammalian predators continues to be a primary factor limiting productivity. Beach management practices to safeguard beach-nesting birds from disturbance, mortality and habitat degradation still remain effective conservation tools. Piping plovers are classified as “Threatened" on both the federal and state endangered species lists.

[Swimmer]

I suppose this post is a harbinger of things to come in the springtime making larger beach closures a real possibility! Why can't the bird people breed them in pens and let them go on the beaches?

[JHABS]

I dont Believe IT. They just DON'T want us on the Beach. Guess the Coyotes, SeaGulls, Foxes, and Racoons will Starve.

[MoroneSaxatilis]

Originally Posted by Swimmer

Why can't the bird people breed them in pens and let them go on the beaches?

LLoyd's State Park in Westport has pens ON the beaches.

[ThrowingTimber]

*Burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp* sorry

[Slipknot]

Maybe if the morons realized the plovers are NOT native to the cape, then they'll know why the numbers are down. The birds are leaving the area because of predators, how can you blame the birds? ya, close the beaches to humans, that makes alot of sense

[Brother Brian]

The only time I've ever SEEN a plover egg it was in the mouth of a raccon at Napatree.

[Zeno]

Originally Posted by tattoobob

2005 PIPING PLOVER NUMBERS DOWN

Pipping plover , taste like chicken

[afterhours]

plovers- send 'em back where they came from.

[BigFish]

We got a long way to go before they are gone soooo.......lets get to work!

[Raven]

from New Zealand.... just like apples we get 5-600 bushels per acre here....
in new zealand they get around 2500 bpa....putting all the new england
apple growers out of business as they cant compete. so grow the friggan
little beachy birds over there......if you can raise 22 million chinese pheasants
in south dakota...then you can raise anything....anywhere.

[Swimmer]

Seawolf pontificated well the point that we should all try to learn more about the PP. He is right. But as Sandman said and I have said many times in the past, THEY do not want to see the sillouette outline of a 4 x 4 on the beach as the sun sets. THEY do not want to see the sillouette outline of a fisherman and his gear as the sun sets. I am surpirsied that THEY have tried to buy the sun so THEY can have all to THEMselves. IT is clearly a status generated concern by THEM in regard to the plover.

[Swimmer]

They have money to donate to thier private causes, but if THEY did not get a tax incentive for doing so THEY wouldn't donate dime one. Furthermore THEY (see PETA members) unlike recreational fishermen/women sometimes use violence themselves or push easily lead others to do something violent on thier behalf as a means of achieve thier goals, which in my mind shoot large holes in any credibility THEY lay claim too. I don't have anything against anyone who possesses more means than I do, but I do have something against people who use those means to purposely screw us out of something that is there for all to use and rub the fact in our faces that THIER money is responsible for the beach closings.

The trials and tribulations that we recreational fishermen/women face as far as getting our voices heard and our votes in the booth to mean something are almost overwhelming. I know beach access issues have little to do with the RFA and most of the other organizations that cater to fishing issues, but it seems to me that if a company like Cabela's wanted to donate web site space for various issues and actually pay employees to register people in each state to issue that list with our concerns and how we feel in regard to many pressing issues it would be a win win situation for Cabela's. So far one organization has yet to gain enough strength and/or members obviously to mean anything. EITHER THAT OR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THINK WE DO NOT VOTE.

[Bake Mellow]

they are just sooo yummy, I can't control myself

[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by Swimmer

They have money to donate to thier private causes, but if THEY did not get a tax incentive for doing so THEY wouldn't donate dime one. Furthermore THEY (see PETA members) unlike recreational fishermen/women sometimes use violence themselves or push easily lead others to do something violent on thier behalf as a means of achieve thier goals, which in my mind shoot large holes in any credibility THEY lay claim too. I don't have anything against anyone who possesses more means than I do, but I do have something against people who use those means to purposely screw us out of something that is there for all to use and rub the fact in our faces that THIER money is responsible for the beach closings.

The trials and tribulations that we recreational fishermen/women face as far as getting our voices heard and our votes in the booth to mean something are almost overwhelming. I know beach access issues have little to do with the RFA and most of the other organizations that cater to fishing issues, but it seems to me that if a company like Cabela's wanted to donate web site space for various issues and actually pay employees to register people in each state to issue that list with our concerns and how we feel in regard to many pressing issues it would be a win win situation for Cabela's. So far one organization has yet to gain enough strength and/or members obviously to mean anything. EITHER THAT OR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THINK WE DO NOT VOTE.

You left out a third possibility; maybe the other 99.99% of the country thinks the endangered species act is a good idea and they don't give a damn if less than .0001% of the population is inconvenienced.

[Swimmer]

Ya Mike I did kinda start ranting a little didn't I. I agree with the ESA.