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Old 01-12-2006, 05:49 PM   #1
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A few Abrames and Gartside inspirations

Top fly is a shrimp.... Based on Ken Abrames General Practitioner

Tail: A few strands of long yellow bucktail under a short bright red hackle tied flat
Eyes: Jungle Cock
Carapace: a few strands of rust marabou
Body: Gold mylar braid with Spey style chartreuse saddle hackle palmered the length of the body, 5 to 7 turns
Carapace: Pintail or Mallard flank feather

Middle fly: Based of Jack Gartside's Soft Hackle Streamer

Tail: a few strnds of copper flash
Body: Gold mylar braid
hackle: 3-4 turns of rust marabou with 2 turns of chartreuse marabou in front
Eye: Jungle cock

Bottom Fly: Based on Gartside's Soft Hackle Sandeel

Tail: A few strands of yellow bucktail, 4 strands of gold flash, yellow saddle,fire orange saddle, burnt orange saddle (each one 1/2" longer the the previous saddle), short olive saddle
Body: Gold mylar briad
Hackle:3-4 turns of rust marabou with one turn of chartreuse marabou in front
eye: Jungle cock

Tied these up at First Light Anglers last night. Got tired of tying synthetics that everyone else was doing with Derek :-)

I'll be doing a Flatwings session there Feb 1st. 6 PM. Bring your vice, tools and beer :-)
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Old 01-12-2006, 10:37 PM   #2
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Top fly is a shrimp.... Based on Ken Abrames General Practitioner
Ken Abrames didn't develop the GP, it is pretty well accepted that it was developed around 1953 by Col. Edmund Drury.

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Old 01-12-2006, 10:56 PM   #3
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Ken adapted the pattern to saltwater use (reference his boo, A Perfect Fish) with minor modifications to the pattern. That is the version of the fly I'm referring to.
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Old 01-12-2006, 11:17 PM   #4
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Glad I could enlighten you. Nice tie BTW.

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Old 01-13-2006, 09:31 AM   #5
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Hey Roger, I appreciate your adding the point on the heritage of the GP. History of these flies is very important! It's a great fly!!!!!
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Old 01-13-2006, 10:41 AM   #6
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STEELHEAD, just love it! keep'em comming. NOT to meny guys around here tie them. Im in the group on the few! would be nice to see more posted an interest, ee you at the show!
GOOD LUCK GOOD TYIN

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Old 01-13-2006, 07:34 PM   #7
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Steelhead it maybe easier to list the flies stripers don't readily take.I 've used trout nymph patterns to simulate isopods,crawfish patterns designed for smallmouth fishing as juvi lobsters,san juan worms during clam worm hatches.The appetite of stripers is quite diverse.I can recall many times when the usual tried and true patterns would not produce ,I'd tie on a general practitioner and hook up.Experimenting and discovering makes up alot of the enjoyment of flyfishing.
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Old 01-13-2006, 10:05 PM   #8
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Dang!
You're spilling all the beans!
Those are supposed to be "Trade Secrets".... :-)

Share a few of those patterns?
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Old 01-14-2006, 02:29 PM   #9
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I love Ken's Version of the G.P. It consistantley catches fish. I never heard of it used in the salt till I met Ken. Always my go to fly in the estuaries. Never without one on a dropper, another thing I never saw being done till i met the SM crew. Here are some I did with Spey hackle, wich I learned from seeing steelheads. They look absolutley alive in the water. Thanks for the Idea John.
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Old 01-14-2006, 05:33 PM   #10
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Seriously Shrimpy!
Beautiful Proportions!
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Old 01-14-2006, 07:52 PM   #11
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Ummmm--Hmmmm
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I love Ken's Version of the G.P. It consistantley catches fish. I never heard of it used in the salt till I met Ken. Always my go to fly in the estuaries. Never without one on a dropper, another thing I never saw being done till i met the SM crew. Here are some I did with Spey hackle, wich I learned from seeing steelheads. They look absolutley alive in the water. Thanks for the Idea John.

John - those are beautiful!!!!

Ride the spiral to the end...............
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Old 01-27-2006, 06:54 AM   #13
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I love Ken's Version of the G.P. It consistantley catches fish. I never heard of it used in the salt till I met Ken. Always my go to fly in the estuaries. Never without one on a dropper, another thing I never saw being done till i met the SM crew. Here are some I did with Spey hackle, wich I learned from seeing steelheads. They look absolutley alive in the water. Thanks for the Idea John.

so beautiful I must have clicked twice

Ride the spiral to the end...............
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Old 01-27-2006, 06:49 PM   #14
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John, we have the same countertop
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Old 01-15-2006, 11:51 AM   #15
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First Light

Steelhead, didn't First Light used to be located on the Harbor in Manchester-by-the-Sea?

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Old 01-15-2006, 01:46 PM   #16
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Yep. They moved to Rowley (Route 133) a little over a year ago. Bigger store. Same great guys!
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Old 01-25-2006, 08:20 PM   #17
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Last season was my first using the gp and they impressed the heck out of me. My favorite one was with brownish red hues. Next season I will always have one on for a dropper for sure. They also mimic a fry lobster really well.
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Old 01-25-2006, 08:32 PM   #18
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some clam worms are tiny.......hard to notice but they are there
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Old 01-26-2006, 09:16 AM   #19
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Steelhead, have you tried Whiting Farms Bird Fur? Saw it at the Marlboro show and it's a Spey type hackle for not too much money.
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Gartside

Did you ever talk to Jack Gartside? Can be a funny guy.

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I've met him, but haven't spent time with him. His website is a Hoot!
Full of useful information, too.
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Old 01-30-2006, 10:26 PM   #22
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Did you ever talk to Jack Gartside? Can be a funny guy.
Can be?! Go out to dinner sometime with him. Between the still alive hunk of cow he ate, the eggnog he smuggled in at the steakhouse and then ordered some sort of liquor for, and the harassment the waitress withstood, I was in tears all night long. He's a character.

That was a long night. Stuck in Marlborough at the Fly Fishing Show during the Blizzard of '05. First Light Anglers, Skok, Boyle, The Saltwater Edge, the Bears Den, and Gartside at a Steakhouse and then the hotel bar the rest of the night. All the youngest fly fishers left in the industry plus Gartside. That guy is still a kid at heart. Probably my favorite Fly Fishing Show memory. Lots of stories from that night...
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