american cars suk!!

[thefishingfreak]

no wonder there going outta buisness
think they would learn from the japanese and the germans
mirror for ford 375 bucks and then you gotta pay to get it taken appart,painted,put back together, installed takes a friggin hour. 75 screws in the door to get it out.takes two days to get the parts.
you get a toyota. bingo 150 bucks it's allready painted. in stock. shows up in an hour 15 minutes to put it on and done!
my friggin sloburbans got 80,000 miles on it, it's falling appart rattlebox. everything starting to break.front end is junk. they can't even make a stupid power window switch last more than 5 years

i'm getting a foriegn car!! frig this!!
made bye, paid bye, and driven bye an american---> whoopie-frickin'-do...

fourty grand for a piece of junk no thanks!!



carry on

[StripinLine]

No realy, what do you realy think??? WOW

["uffah!!"]

What do I really think? Well, lets put it this way,your the type of guy that will be blaming big business for moving your job over seas!!

[StripinLine]

Well, lets put it this way,your the type of guy that will be blaming big business for moving your job over seas!!
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Realy?? Do you know me so well?? I didn't think so..

[thefishingfreak]

nope. trust me the way these things are made, my job is very seccure.

[Jenn]

Yep...I am with you 100%. Couldnt AFFORD to keep up with vehicle repair costs....been with toyota for about five years and dumped less into repairs in the last five years on TWO vehicles that we did on just one ford in one year! Sorry I dont make $100,000 a year....I need something I can afford and rely on to get me there every day if ya know what I am saying.

[Jenn]

oh and might I also add, how many "American" car companies have plants in Mexico these days??? bet more than many realize!

[MoroneSaxatilis]

Originally Posted by Jenn

oh and might I also add, how many "American" car companies have plants in Mexico these days??? bet more than many realize!

That's certainly true. But let's not forget that many foreign cars today are so in name only and are actually manufactured right here in the U.S.
Perhaps it's the design and management that makes some foreign cars superior to American ones.

[PurpelNoon]

I read recently that car manufacturers are all using very sophisticated technology in their vehicles and the high-end German manufacturers as well as the Americans are having lots of problems with it. The article continued to state that the Japanese seem to be getting it right.

Whenever I can, I purchase American goods, especially if it means NOT buying something made in China. As far as American cars go, I think they have gotten better, but I still buy Japanese cars. I would love to buy an American car, but I'm not going to do so at my financial loss. Unfortunately.

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by PurpelNoon

Whenever I can, I purchase American goods, especially if it means NOT buying something made in China. As far as American cars go, I think they have gotten better, but I still buy Japanese cars. I would love to buy an American car, but I'm not going to do so at my financial loss. Unfortunately.

Same here...

[Karl F]

they all suck, american, foreign, that's why mechanics and autobody guys have job security. new cars are overpriced, so if you can figger out which one will break down less, buy it, 'cause your payin' thru the nose, right up front, no need to continue the agony after.

that being said... How many purchase the extended warranty.. and is it worth it?

[thefishingfreak]

karl i bought it on my durango for close to 2 grand thank god. trans went. intake gasket.abs controller.a/c pump. and a host of other things. all under 60k miles.
if you don't just pray you get a wedsday made one. 'cause the monday and friday cars..........

[vineyardblues]

Karl , got the 7 years on my ford ...lol
It should pay for it's self......

VB

[thefishingfreak]

ohh try this too..
everyone go out to there car/truck.. right... open the drivers door and bend down to look at the bottom lip of the door, whear they fold the door skin over..i betya money there's allready rust there if it's more than a year old

[Raider Ronnie]

American auto engineers are some of the most brilliant people in the world !!!
Sure, Toyota can (and does) build a vehicle that will last forever !!!
But the way American car makers can design and build a car that will start to fall apart after the warrarty or length of the auto loan is up, so they can keep taking your money!
Now thats brilliant !!!

[Pete_G]

Originally Posted by Karl F

that being said... How many purchase the extended warranty.. and is it worth it?

I bought a bumper to bumper 6year/100k warranty for my Tacoma and I've actually had occasions to use it. Several times though, imo, something that should have been covered was denied. Starting this past summer, I've had to be careful with the truck on warm days since it will occasionally overheat. When it was brought in for diagnosis they said it had poor coolant flow, yet they wouldn't replace anything suspect such as the radiator, water pump or t-stat. They just left me hanging. The ultimate kick in the nuts was that the next step in finding out what is wrong would be on my dime, pulling the radiator for a flow test to the tune of $600. This is a '01 truck with 70k warrantied to 100k. I was ready to blow stuff up at that point. The additional bonus is that in a couple cases some of the dealerships acted as though it was a huge chore, complete with an eye roll in my direction, to contact Toyota to get clearance for a warranty item.

Overall customer service has been a disappointment nevermind that the truck hasn't exactly been a Toyota. Now that I'm thinking about it here's another little gem. I bought the truck as a "Used Certified Vehicle" with the whole "bumper to bumper 115 point inspection" they brag about. A week after I drove it off the lot the brake pads were scraping the discs. Some inspection. Later I discovered it had an aftermarket windshield that was leaking water into the inside of the truck. I had to pay to have it resealed, they wouldn't cover that either. Only "the best of the best used vehicles" my ass. I love Toyotas but at this point they probably won't be getting any more of my money unless I really fall in love with that new FJ.

On the customer service front I may be forced to buy another Mercedes just so I can enjoy service visits at Viti Inc. again. That company BY FAR understands customer service and the concept of repeat business more then any other business, automotive or otherwise. I always left with an empty wallet, but I always felt it was worth it. I even had a few unrelated small things fixed for free that I didn't even ask to have fixed while my car was in for service, and this was on an out of warranty car. I honestly model SWE customer service after that place, it's that good. 90% of it is the way they treat you, which was with respect, something seriously lost in most of my recent automotive experiences. I really don't care to be treated like my warranty service visits are a chore for the dealership after I drop 25k on a vehicle...

ok, that's enough ranting for tonight. I'm sure I'll have something new to be fired up about tomorrow.

[fishaholic18]

Originally Posted by Pete_G

I bought the truck as a "Used Certified Vehicle" with the whole "bumper to bumper 115 point inspection" they brag about.

That's a joke, it's just another word for "Used car". I worked as a tech for Chrysler since '87, they have the kids. that don't have a clue, do the inspections on the Certified vehicles because it is cheaper to pay them to do it rather than having us, higher paid, techs do them. The only difference between used and certified used, is the friggin' checklist, who needs a checklist to check a car out if ya know what the %$#@ your doing?

[boot man]

My Nissan truck is made in Mississippi. Before this I had a Ford that was made in Canada and a Honda made in the USA. It aint the labor, it's the parts and the design.

If i had a choice it's US made for me.

[thefishingfreak]

american cars=lease
foriegn cars=own

[PurpelNoon]

Thats great to hear. I'm glad someone has had luck with them. My father and neighbor both had Buick Regals and had nothing but major problems with them since the first day they bought them.