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02-24-2006, 04:22 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Southern Maine
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Plug rod:Lami or GLoomis?
Thinking of a new plugging rod to throw up to 2.5-3 ounce plugs.
Considering the Lami Arra XSRA 1084-2 and the GLoomis SUR1266S. Any opinions? What's the "sweet spot " casting-wise for these rods?Thanks, Ake
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02-24-2006, 06:29 PM
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Where'd he go?
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Rhody
Posts: 849
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I'm partial to Lami's myself.
I don't have the 1084 so I can't comment on it's sweet spot, but that weight is with in it's range.
I'm considering a 108 M as a 9'er for myself, I really like the gsb's.
I realize that quality rod manufacturers like those mentioned really do a good job on the rod ferrules nowadays but I still prefer a one piece any day of the week.
Last edited by In The Surf; 02-24-2006 at 06:37 PM..
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02-24-2006, 06:48 PM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
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I can vouch for the durability of that 2 piece Loomis. It's our #1 selling Loomis surf rod (2 dozen conservatively over the past 2 years or so) and I've never heard or seen one break at the ferrule so don't let that scare you away from that rod. I don't sell that many production Lami's, but I have heard from more then a few people that the tip on the 1084's can be a bit delicate.
Different feeling sticks though, I'd try and get your hands on both of them. I like Lamiglas in the surf, but I'm not too big on the action of the 1084 or the new 1204. Not my sort of surf sticks. They could certainly be yours though.
The taper on the 1266 does send a plug to the horizon in most peoples hands. Most people that test out rods at the shop and take them to the water generally find they can throw most plugs farther with the Loomis then most other rods. I think it's the slightly softer tip, it smoothly launches plugs with no tumbling so they go a lot further. It's VERY versatile, it'll chuck a 16A Bomber or a big Cowboy. Sweet spot though imo is 1.5 to around 3 ounces.
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02-25-2006, 09:26 AM
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Location: Southern Maine
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To be specific, most of my fishing is of the rocky ledge variety. Standing on and casting into or parallel to rocky structure. Not a lot of, but some standing in sand and ch#^^^^^&g far into the waves.
That's what I'm thinking w/this rod. That's why the 9' sounds appealing.
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02-25-2006, 11:32 AM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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I have the arra 1084 and the 1203-2 both reel nice rods,
I don't like the 2 piece 1203 it keeps turning at the ferrel
I taped it and stopped the problem but if I had to buy it
again I would get the one piece.
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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02-25-2006, 11:37 AM
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Registered User
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Location: RI
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If you're looking for a 9 footer, I'd see if you can locate an All Star 1088 (no longer in production) or the Batson SU 1088.
Very light but a ton of backbone for moving fish around the rocks. My All Star is perfect in that weight range, and I believe the Batson is very similar.
A 9' one piece is much more easy to transport than 10'...that way you can avoid the two piece.
-specne
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02-25-2006, 11:56 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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Arra Lami's
I have the 8'er-med, 9'er-med, 11'er-med, and the 11 1/2'er fast action. They all tend to be stiff on the action. Never had tip problems that was alluded too, but that doesn't mean thier isn't one. I can tell you that I can cast that 11' over the friekin moon. Same for the shorter ones as well. The fast action 11 1/2'er is, well heavey, and if your not careful casting it you could pull a tendon in your forearm. I stretched it good in an impromptu casting contest a few years ago and paid dearly. Love all the rest of them though.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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02-25-2006, 12:00 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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One more thing
I know Jules uses Loomis and loves them. The green blank she had was so light you could hardly feel it in your hand.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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02-25-2006, 04:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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I think the big difference i in action. The Loomis rods are very fast action while the Lami is more moderate.
I have fished a Loomis 1266 (custom , not factory) for about8 years now. Nice rod. Hammers stuff around 3 OZ.
there's a foot and a half difference between the two rods you mentioned. That's a big difference so you really need to better define what you are looking for.
Allstar1088 is a very nice solution to what you mention. You are looking at about $230 for one custom made. Warrantee issue is that should it break , Allstar may not have a resplacement (not that they are reluctant to honor the warrrantee , they simply may not have any) and you'll have to work out some sort of comparable replacement deal.
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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02-25-2006, 07:57 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Actually, the XRA 1084 is more like a Loomis than a traditional Lami. It is a very fast rod.
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02-27-2006, 08:22 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Batson 1089...
can throw 1.5oz up to 4oz and good stopping power
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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02-27-2006, 10:30 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Burlington
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Lami --- 2 to 21/2 oz sweetspot !! Will launch up to 4 1/2 oz. with caution 
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low & slow 37
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