Anybody get their On The Water yet? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

MakoMike · 03-21-2006, 01:10 PM

Mine came yesterday. Anyone have a comments or brickbats about my article?

jim sylvester · 03-21-2006, 04:22 PM

Mike,
good read.. I dom't think the people from boga would like it though as you wrote to always handle a big bass that you plan on releasing horizontally.

always look forward to the articles

MakoMike · 03-21-2006, 04:39 PM

I didn't expect the folks at boga to be real thrilled about it. But the fact is that if you hang any good sized fish from its mouth, like you see the guys do all the time with the boga, the fish are almost certainly going to die. Teaching that lesson was one of the main reasons I wrote the article.

Backbeach Jake · 03-21-2006, 06:03 PM

I have mine in front of the keyboard as I type. I'll give an opinion later.

mekcotuit · 03-21-2006, 07:01 PM

MakoMike - Just read the piece as I was having dinner - very very good. Lots of information and "pointers" to those of us somewhat newbies who may think we are practicing proper catch and release. Thank you!

tattoobob · 03-21-2006, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakoMike

I didn't expect the folks at boga to be real thrilled about it. But the fact is that if you hang any good sized fish from its mouth, like you see the guys do all the time with the boga, the fish are almost certainly going to die. Teaching that lesson was one of the main reasons I wrote the article.

This is agreat point and dosen't come up to often, I haven't recieved mine yet but I will read it. Thanks Mike

Pete F. · 03-22-2006, 08:01 AM

Interesting article. After reading about mortality from hanging, the next day theres the picture of the "new world record" largemouth. Wonder if it made it?

NIB · 03-22-2006, 08:29 AM

U want a brickbat? How Bout it'll take 2 more weeks from the day of this post before i get mine.WTF is up with that.What do they deliver em by donkey.That is all.
For now.

Slick Moedee · 03-22-2006, 08:48 AM

Haven't read the article just yet, but wondering if you provide locations/cites of studies that have come to the conclusion, holding fish vertical = bad. I can see that it makes total sense, but am currious if any studies have been done on other fish, say Lg. mouth for instance. Thanks.

samurai fisherm · 03-22-2006, 09:59 AM

Mike,

Well written article and very informative. Couldn't put it down. Leaned some things that I didn't realize.

MakoMike · 03-22-2006, 11:17 AM

SM,
Yes I did. The studies that showed the mortality from hanging fish byt he mouth came out of Australia, and I provided a website address for them. I actually talked to the guy who did the study to get the facts.

reelecstasy · 03-22-2006, 08:45 AM

Basic PP had an article in this months OTW as well

MakoMike · 04-03-2006, 10:00 AM

Did that answer everyone questions?

Mr. Sandman · 04-03-2006, 10:25 AM

MM,
Thanks for taking the time to digest it all and respond to what seemed like one of my more hostile posts. I know what your intent of the article was and support that aspect of it.

I still don't believe the study and would like to read it for myself sometime.
Do you know where I might find a copy?

A couple more questions. How did they determine if the fish survived? How does one follow a specific fish for any length of time? Archival tag? I don't know how you would determine that a fish dies down the road from being weighed sometime days, weeks, months prior.
Also, how many fish were actually studied?

This article makes me think of you often

...every time I see a fishing show hold up a big fish I think of this report. (It is like a bad song I can't get out of my head) This past weekend I watched Jose' Wejabe (sp?) Spanish fly guy catch a large 30# redfish on light tackle in LA. It was held by the gill in the vertical position several times and then weighed on a bogogrip then "released as these are the spawners"...it seemed to swim away with vigor. Also, I saw a tivoed edition of Walkers Cay Chronicles, there he caught a large tarpon and picked up the entire fish by the jaw via a lip gaff, it had to go 100+. It was also released. Then saw Offshore adventure yank a striped marlin out of the water for a photo op with the West Marine winner of some contest. They man handled that fish and it still seemed to swim away OK.

I still think if this were an issue it would have been discovered long before now.

If you can direct me to a copy of that report I would appreciate it.

Thanks