OTW Striper Ccup - should S-B field a Team? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

JohnR · 03-30-2006, 01:52 PM

IF, IF, S-B were to field a team

I first want to take a poll from you folks so I can be, err, responsible in my decision. This is so I can get a feel for what YOU all think.

The following poll will ask you if you plan to:

Register & Fish by yourself:

I plan to Fish for S-B if this site fields a team:

I am a member of MSBA and plan to fish for MSBA:

I am a member of MSBA and plan to fish for S-B:

I am a member of RISAA and plan to fish for RISAA:

I am a member of RISAA and plan to fish for S-B:

I am a member of CT Surfcasters and plan to fish for CT Surfcasters:

I am a member of CT Surfcasters and plan to fish for S-B:

I am a member of Weekapaug Surfcasters and plan to fish for Weekapaug Surfcasters:

I am a member of Weekapaug Surfcasters and plan to fish for S-B:

I am a member of ANY other club that will field a team and plan to fish for that club:

I am a member of ANY other club that will field a team and plan to fish for S-B:

My club won't likely participate, so I'll fish for S-B

What I want to do is determine if S-B should field a team and if we did, if it would it impact other clubs,

Slipknot · 03-30-2006, 02:09 PM

what are the upsides, downsides, advantages or disadvantages to either signing up individually or with a club? Or does it even make a difference if you catch a cow.

ThrowingTimber · 03-30-2006, 03:32 PM

Fishing for Weeka unless they decline.

Addicted · 03-30-2006, 03:58 PM

Will register and fish for myself

TSPS · 03-30-2006, 04:00 PM

I don't belong to any club , but I would like to chance to fish with some of the other members on this site alota knowledge out there .

Joe · 03-30-2006, 04:05 PM

Sink a grand or two into it and I bet you field a heck of a team.

Clammer · 03-30-2006, 04:05 PM

F/I ========

MakoMike · 03-30-2006, 04:23 PM

Is this a surf only thingie?

tattoobob · 03-30-2006, 04:40 PM

I have nothing against the Striper Cup, But I am not going to join
I am against competition, it is for fun and I think this might take
that away for me.

JohnR · 03-30-2006, 04:41 PM

Surf and Boat...

The main thing I want NOT to do is step on the toes of the "traditional" clubs. If this were to dilute the traditional clubs participation, I might be hesitant to do it. If this will have little or no bearing on the traditional clubs, I see little reason not to do it.

But I'm just trying to be responsible here

tattoobob · 03-30-2006, 04:45 PM

John Have you sent them (OTW) an email? I am sure they will answer any concerns you have. this is as much of a club as any others even more so seeing it is like a meeting every night.

JohnR · 03-30-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tattoobob

John Have you sent them (OTW) an email? I am sure they will answer any concerns you have. this is as much of a club as any others even more so seeing it is like a meeting every night.

Once we have a few questions put together we can ask - who knows, they watch this site, perhaps they will engage in a little discussion

Backbeach Jake · 03-30-2006, 05:16 PM

This is a new kind of fishing club. One of the 21st Century. Tradition in this type of club is yet to be established. But it is and will be established. I'll fish for S-B.

Skitterpop · 03-30-2006, 05:20 PM

To be fair to other clubs just keep the teams for various states to a set limit equivalent to most independent clubs. I bet when push comes to shove you`ll be surprised to see the small amount who will enter as a S-B member.... No offense intended.

I can sign up as an individual or join some team...its still $25.00 because I`m a long time subscriber to OTW. I think,if I read the rules correctly, I have more chances to win individual prizes as a solo entrant....theoretically that is... I have to catch some big bass, kill them, and weigh them in either way.

tlapinski · 03-30-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

Once we have a few questions put together we can ask - who knows, they watch this site, perhaps they will engage in a little discussion

If you find someone to return your email, let me know. I dropped someone over there an email on Monday inquiring as to how you go about registering a club and I am still waiting for a response.

Saltheart · 03-30-2006, 07:16 PM

I would like to read about it and see the details. Any links to OTW that show info on the tourney?

tlapinski · 03-30-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saltheart

I would like to read about it and see the details. Any links to OTW that show info on the tourney?

http://www.onthewater.com/stripercuphome.html

seabass · 03-30-2006, 08:39 PM

I'd love to fish for S-B, hell, I"m easy I'll use any excuse to fish!

basswipe · 03-30-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by seabass

I'd love to fish for S-B, hell, I"m easy I'll use any excuse to fish!

Could you imagine us fishing together?I think it would be cool.

MakoMike · 03-31-2006, 08:03 AM

Well,
this site is my local club, so if we field a team and the dates fit in with the rest of my schedule, I'm in!

Rockport24 · 03-31-2006, 09:53 AM

I agree, I visit this site everyday and try to engage in some discussion, it's a much of a club as any of the traditional ones are.
I'm sure OTW will limit the amount of entrants on website clubs though and the idea about dividing the points by number of people in the club ain't too bad..

DZ · 03-31-2006, 03:03 PM

Wow – I have read the Striper Cup Rules and I’m very surprised at the response of SB.com members to say the least.

After all that the striped bass stocks have been through and the many threads about lack of large bass that I’ve read on this site I’m shocked at the support this tourney is receiving.

To have a contest that awards prizes for “Aggregate weight (points per pound)” with no limit to the amount of fished entered per club is ill conceived and, in my opinion, not very responsible in this day and age.

Many fishing clubs, including mine, dropped the “aggregate weight/points” system long ago because it was deemed part of our contest’s that endorsed the keeping of bass that would normally have been released.

I’m not “lily white” by any means as I’ve killed my share of bass over the years but the Schaefer Contest was run a long time ago when recreational concern for striped bass stocks was of little concern. A contest made to “appear” similar to it and showing no real concern for conservation issues makes us as recreational fishermen look bad.
I won't be fishing it.

DZ

BigFish · 03-31-2006, 03:41 PM

DZ....many may not care about the aggregate weight......I know I don't! I am going to register and all I care about is large! I only keep 2 or 3 a year.......so I will choose my keeper carefully!

I usually keep a couple in the 15-25 pound range but if I catch a personal best....I will weigh it and enter it......and eat it!

The aggregate weight is more for the sum total of a club I believe....I may be wrong.

Ed B · 03-31-2006, 03:52 PM

Each pound is worth ONE POINT.

"Angler of the Year" is based on accumulated POINTS

Winning Club is based on accumulated POINTS

To compete for those categories, each angler will be killing 2 fish a week over the course of a 20 week tournament, to get his points.

Does anyone here think that is the right thing to do in this day and age?

I think it's disgusting.

Ed

Karl F · 03-31-2006, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DZ

Wow – I have read the Striper Cup Rules and I’m very surprised at the response of SB.com members to say the least.

After all that the striped bass stocks have been through and the many threads about lack of large bass that I’ve read on this site I’m shocked at the support this tourney is receiving.

To have a contest that awards prizes for “Aggregate weight (points per pound)” with no limit to the amount of fished entered per club is ill conceived and, in my opinion, not very responsible in this day and age.

Many fishing clubs, including mine, dropped the “aggregate weight/points” system long ago because it was deemed part of our contest’s that endorsed the keeping of bass that would normally have been released.

I’m not “lily white” by any means as I’ve killed my share of bass over the years but the Schaefer Contest was run a long time ago when recreational concern for striped bass stocks was of little concern. A contest made to “appear” similar to it and showing no real concern for conservation issues makes us as recreational fishermen look bad.
I won't be fishing it.

DZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed B

Each pound is worth ONE POINT.

"Angler of the Year" is based on accumulated POINTS

Winning Club is based on accumulated POINTS

To compete for those categories, each angler will be killing 2 fish a week over the course of a 20 week tournament, to get his points.

Does anyone here think that is the right thing to do in this day and age?

I think it's disgusting.

Ed

Good points from two knowledgeable gents.
I think the Schaeffer had it's day, at the right time.
Not for today's world.

I won't be participating, not that I'd have a snowballs chance at winning, mind you, I just can't support more pressure on the fish.
As much as I cannot support more pressure on access points.

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Originally Posted by Flaptail

GENTLEMEN, WEIGHING TWO FISH A WEEK AT 34 INCHES IS NOT MANDATORY, IT'S A STARTING POINT. SEROIUSLY, WOULD YOU REALLY BOTHER WEIGHING IN A 34 INCH FISH IN A TOURNAMENT LIKE THIS, 34 POUNDS MAYBE, 34 INCHES? REALLY NOW BOYS, THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MOMENT.

Point taken, and yes you are correct, not mandatory... But, how many will sign up, and do just that, thinking only of a shiny new truck or boat, or pins, trophyies etc?..... You know the nature of that kind of beast.

Those that join in the contest, good luck, have fun.