OTW Striper Cup, enhanced rules, Should S-B fish as a team?

[JohnR]

Primary Improvements are listed below - Detailed Rules are listed on OTW's site: http://onthewater.com/stripercuprules.html as well as the post by WHDave: http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ad.php?t=30572

1 Reduced weighed in fish from 2 to 1 per week (still 34" minimum which is a common minimum in club contests)

2 Angler of Year - 2 Divisions, Boat & Surf, with each division awarding to the aggregate weight of the top 5 fish of any one angler - also down considerably in the total amount of fish potentially wieghed in.

3 Striper Cup, Club, and State awards are based on the heaviest TEN fish weighed in by a club. The new rules effectively remove the need of weighing in 34 inch fish as well as bringing small clubs and large clubs more on par, evening the odds.

I personally feel that OTW made substantial changes to the BENEFIT of this tournament and I applaude their efforts in doing so. You all spoke, others from clubs and individual readers spoke, and On The Water listened and embraced the general consensus. The process of oublic comment worked, and OTW addressed the majority of the concerns of the public.

So now, we are in Club OTW Poll Part Deaux. I am looking to get the pulse of the site members as to whether S-B should field a team under the new rules but I need your opinions:

BTW - you can vote twice...

[BigFish]

Goin' solo. Team BigFish!

[Sea Dangles]

John, no offense but when did S-B become a club?An organization that traditionally you apply to for membership and has meetings besides wings or tctfn.If this is something that came about because of power in numbers or a good shot to win given the loose description regarding clubs I think it is wrong.S-B is a great site and will be around for a long time allah willing, but perhaps we should sit out one year before entering the present format.Next year the trophy could rest at Hooters.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

John, no offense but when did S-B become a club?An organization that traditionally you apply to for membership and has meetings besides wings or tctfn.If this is something that came about because of power in numbers or a good shot to win given the loose description regarding clubs I think it is wrong.S-B is a great site and will be around for a long time allah willing, but perhaps we should sit out one year before entering the present format.Next year the trophy could rest at Hooters.

We are a new generation of club that dovetails nicely with the traditional clubs and offers less in some cases and offers more in others. Plus we support clubs. If you feel that we don't qualify as a club then obviously you would not fish for a not club so sign the Poll that you'll fish individually, as part of another club, or to not fish it at all. Your choice.

However, there has been some scuttlebutt that groups like SB and some other sites may be able to field a team. If that is the case AND the members here WANT S-B to field a team, perhaps we will. As for power in numbers and the fact that a lot of our people will fish for traditional clubs they belong to (and we are just giving people an option to fish with us), I think we are smaller than a lot of clubs, certainly like MSBA or RISAA. I've heard rumors (nothing official) that it may be by state anyway...

The question at this point, and where you are encouraged to vote on the poll, is which way each of you feel we should go. This is not my call, but that of the SB members.

[Sea Dangles]

Just trying to provide the pulse of the membership albeit one member.Are websites eligible to enter as clubs or would this involve more "tweaking"?If OTW considers us eligible to enter, are we then supposed to conveniently reinvent of ourselves as a club given necessity is the mother of invention.Please explain "new generation of club" given the fact this tournament is one that is trying to bring back a tradition.

[tattoobob]

I am also going solo, I know I am not going large but I am in it for the party

[Saltheart]

I like the rule changes. If we can , lets field a S_B team. If for some reason we can't or don't field a team , I'm going to enter as an individual just so I can go to the beer party at the end.

[JohnR]

SD, over the past few years we have had numerous discussions on how we are similar to and seperate from a traditional club, often due to tournaments. As that is not the topic of this thread I want to see this stay on topic and get the general consensus of what people want to do regarding this tourney...

Thanks,

John

[Sea Dangles]

I thought the timing seemed self-serving but do as you wish.I look forward to the celebration at the conclusion.BTW how many members are in our "club"?

[Nebe]

if OTW allows internet fishing sites to participate, there should be a seperate division for them. Not knocking this site or anyother site, but the membership levels on these sites are monstorous. Plus, each site has members from maine to north carolina. If SB.com enters i will all of you the best of luck Im not going to enter.

[Clogston29]

I don't think that I'm gonna enter. I do applaud otw's response to concerns of fishermen but I just don't see this as something that's for me.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Nebe

if OTW allows internet fishing sites to participate, there should be a seperate division for them. Not knocking this site or anyother site, but the membership levels on these sites are monstorous. Plus, each site has members from maine to north carolina. If SB.com enters i will all of you the best of luck Im not going to enter.

What I have not officially heard is - will they allow sites to compete. But the "rumor" mill has it that the sites would be SB RI or SB Mass. Don't know if ANY of it is true. And even if it is I don't know if S-B will field a team - that is up to all of you. At this point I am even money fishing it whether or not SB is in, individually or with a club for which I am a member.

Oh and the party afterwards, I think we need to book some rooms, TFHTF nite

[stiff tip]

whooow ,,,i,ve been off trout fishin back in the old country of woostar ,\.. i c some changes in the game .. i told you that otw was paying attention to everones bitchs and need ......right ??? i hope it satisfies most ...like i said in the begaining,,,give them a little time ,its the first year and there is still alot of ruff edges.to smooth out ....remember the turny is for us fisherman to enjoy the striped bass fishing ...it started as a good intent ..give it a chance .....thats the last i,ll coment on the otw cup derby i,ts rules + regs.......dave p.s. NOT........

[spence]

So a person joins S-B.com with a screen name of "STIFF TIP" then acts suprised when he finds out it's a gay surfcasting themed site?



-spence

[seabass]

only for some Spence, the rest of us look at it as a anti-marriage pro malebonding thing, sexual prefrence is in the mind of the poster.

[spence]

Originally Posted by seabass

only for some Spence, the rest of us look at it as a anti-marriage pro malebonding thing, sexual prefrence is in the mind of the poster.

You have a lesbian sister don't you

-spence

[JohnR]

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