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Boat Fishing & Boating A new forum at Striped-Bass.com for those fishing from boats and for boating in general |
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07-04-2006, 06:38 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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New Gas
I need to get about 4 or 5 gallons of fuel out of my tank so I can start with the new ethanol crap. Any ideas on how to extract it cheaply and safely, other than s#^^^^^&g on a garden hose.  Thanks Paul
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07-04-2006, 06:56 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: CT but only fish in RI
Posts: 155
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tip the bow up, insert fuel line w/ball into tank, start pumping ball.
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07-05-2006, 03:16 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Good idea. Not sure hose will reach bottom of tank but I will buy more hose if I have too.
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07-05-2006, 09:40 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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just let it idle in the driveway for like five hours on the muffs.
the neighbors love that kinda stuff 
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07-05-2006, 10:31 PM
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#5
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SOCO
Posts: 1,995
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You cant mix the new with the old? 
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07-05-2006, 10:43 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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you can mix it.
the main idea was to drain the old stuff down as much as possible then install the filter and fuel up with the new stuff.
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07-06-2006, 12:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,160
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Wouldn't 4-5 gals be a very small percent of the tank capacity? I would think it would be ok? Actually I really don't know....
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07-06-2006, 12:52 PM
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What was that!?!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Kingston, NH
Posts: 3,108
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i mixed old with new and didnt have any problems 
probably had half a tank in when i did...
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07-06-2006, 01:03 PM
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Keep The Change
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Road to Serfdom
Posts: 3,275
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Just fill'er up and drive from Cutty to Newport last Sunday, the old and new should mix beautifully, plus you'll burn more than expected....................
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07-06-2006, 01:30 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Fuel line with the bulb worked like a charm. Great idea. Thanks Rhody. All the info I read said do not mix the old stuff with the new Ethanol gas. Probably over kill but have you ever heard of Murphy's Law. It was written for me.  Paul
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07-07-2006, 12:22 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: CT but only fish in RI
Posts: 155
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 good to hear it worked. i work at a marina, that's the best way we've found
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07-08-2006, 05:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Kingston
Posts: 98
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You can mix the old with the new, just make sure it is atleast a 5 to 1 mix and you won't have any problems if you have a fuel/water seperator/filter.
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07-08-2006, 06:36 PM
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Permanently Disconnected
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,647
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just mix it together and be done with it. I think alot of this is hoopuckey save for the older fiberglass tank guys. I been checking my racor all season and it's fine, all I did at the start of the season was mix 25 gallons of new with about 50 gallons of old and have not had a single problem. My vst pump problem last fall which was diagnosed this spring was well before any Ethanol came up to Mass.
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07-08-2006, 08:22 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
Posts: 6,234
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Last weekend I idled the rest of the old gas out in the driveway. I then installed a 10 micron Racor fuel water separator with the clear bowl. Today I put 18 gallons into the tank. I went home, hooked up the muffs, and proceeded to prime. The filter filled up with fuel, and the clear bowl filled up. So I drained it. I started the boat, and watched the filter, the bowl filled up, I drained it, filled up , I drained it. This went on for 4 or 5 times till the engine died.  Now I started to prime until the bowl filled , and drained it about 15 times. I think I am going to get a hand pump tomorrow, and pump the while tank out. I am peesed, frustrated, and don't know what to do. 
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07-08-2006, 09:28 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
Posts: 6,234
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I thought the filter was designed so that only water would go into the clear bowl, not fuel. Am I wrong, kind of hope I am, them maybe it is something else.
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07-08-2006, 09:32 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SOCO
Posts: 1,995
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The bowl is clear so you can see any water collecting in the bottom, which you drain off down to gas with the petcock
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07-09-2006, 08:20 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 946
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I started the season with 80 gallons that set over the winter,I make sure the the tank is full when I put the boat up.
So far I have pumped in around 200 gallons with no issues.
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07-09-2006, 10:56 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 373
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I have a 1/2 or smaller hose siphoner that I got at a hardware store. It has a primer bulb like a fuel line hose. It works like a charm to drain things. Just have to have the bottom of the hose lower than the tank. You could probably do the same with a fuel hose with a bulb.
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07-09-2006, 12:05 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
Posts: 6,234
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Ok I thought the only thing that would enter the clear bowl was water. I did'nt realize that gas filled the bowl. SO Stupid me let the thing run yesterday with the pitcock open, the engine sucked in more air than gas and starved itself. I just fired it up, and it is idling in the driveway. The gas in the bowl looks good, and before I fired it up, I checked the screen on the fuel pump and it was clean. I am keeping my fingers crossed. I also bought a portable 6 gal tank and hose to have with me just in case, and a couple of spare filters.
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