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Old 08-30-2006, 01:03 PM   #1
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Bass Migration Sighting

Okay folks,

There is an abundance of decent fish in our Long Island waters…. Just wondering, (Please do not disclose specific spots… Just general info.), how’s the bite in your local waters?

For the most Northerly folks, have you seen any depletion at all? Our water temperature has dropped 3 degrees in the past 6 days and there are signs of an early fall run… so what is the scoop.

Cough it up.

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Old 08-30-2006, 01:29 PM   #2
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Happens every year at this time. A move of fish that have been sitting in the deep water all Summer. 4 days of NE wind brings the water temp down and the bass come into the shoreline looking for food...
Bass are phototropic.... they react to the lack of daylight. We still have 13+ hours of daylight.

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Old 08-30-2006, 01:30 PM   #3
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Yup, no migration, a few fish come in from deep haunts and everyone yells Migration, its August for god sakes, those are fish that where there all summer and just moved in from deep water....the migration is still a ways off............
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Old 08-30-2006, 01:56 PM   #4
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Yup, no migration, a few fish come in from deep haunts and everyone yells Migration, its August for god sakes, those are fish that where there all summer and just moved in from deep water....the migration is still a ways off............
Not really. Bass respond to signals that we, in our technologicaly driven world, no longer receive.

The suns angle is now that of early May meaning less sunlight, the days are often, especially the nights, colder, the water cooling. Baitfish are descending from the back coves and embayments in response to thier genetic codes that it's time to hit the high road and make for the open ocean. All this triggers a response and the more north you get the sooner the fish start to move. Maine fish that are not resident populations, and they do mix, are moving. They start a domino effect.

It is a proven fact that the majority of fish that return to and populate a given specific geographical area, say Cape Cod Bay's Barnstable Harbor, year after year. It is also a proven fact that these fish will leave by a certain date in the fall, usually just after Columbus Day. They all don't leave at once. Certainly we know school fish arrive before and leave after the bigger fish do. But within those specific groups that come back year after year are smaller units that arrive in sequence and leave in sequence. Tagging has proved that.

So while it is still August as you say, we only have one day left in the month. Within the next month the fish will leave in phases, so many at a time from specific areas that they historically summer over in. You wouldn't notice for the most part because of the enormity of these certain groups. Twenty fish in a night is a pitance of what really swims under the water your casting to.

They all don't leave at once, they leave in small numbers over a period of time and they start earlier than most think. We see the reverse in the spring while all the internet pundits call for a early arrival based on weather and winter severity. Truth is they start to arrive when they always have hindered only by degrees of water temp that hampers thier ability to respond to anglers attempts to catch them.

Research has showed that striped bass will respond favorably or unfavorably to a change in water temp as small as 1/8 of a degree. Some are more tolerant than others just as humans and other creatures are. Some of us like to ice fish and some can't handle it and think of more southern climes as soon as the temps at night lower into the low 60's. Striped bass are no different.

They are starting to move and eat and that has been quite evident on the outer cape this past week. I would totally agree with Crazy Al.

Why even try.........
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:10 PM   #5
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Yup, no migration, a few fish come in from deep haunts and everyone yells Migration, its August for god sakes, those are fish that where there all summer and just moved in from deep water....the migration is still a ways off............
Hmmm… this is interesting! I know a lot about our resident fish and I do know for a fact that NE and N wind will push fish closer to shore. That’s common and it doesn’t take a sharpie to know that!

What I am referring to is this…. The past few days I noticed an abundance of bigger fish and they are not the resident fish (believe me, I know the difference and the markings confirms so). What I am intrigued is that there is a healthy new body of fish that just moved in and majority of them are situated not too far from where you are. In fact, it is adjacent to your waters and given that we had 6 days of North and North East winds, I have a strong suspicion that it pushed them our way. Yes, the water dropped 3 degrees (and still dropping rapidly) and the fish we are catching are aggressive in the high 20’s and high 30’s (which is abnormal this time of the year) and all on surface lures during the bright broad daylights!

I am also aware that we are in August but if you looked closely, two days from today is September (Duh!) and because it’s been cloudy/raining for the past few days – it is artificially darker and it would trigger them move. Just a thought and that is why I am trying to get an honest dialog amongst some sharp surfcasters.

So let me ask you the question again and perhaps you can actually shed some light into this topic and maybe we can all get some viable information out of it.

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Old 08-30-2006, 01:42 PM   #6
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The first wave of fish should move out of Narragansett Bay next week -- in no way does that mean the start of a migration, it's a sort of pre-positioning for the trip down south, but I view it as more of a change in where they'll be found feeding. Find the bait, find the bass.

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Old 08-30-2006, 02:18 PM   #7
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A lot of other signs point toward an early fall, so an early migration is not out of the question. The bait that usually drops in September from back waters is already headed out of those areas. I would buy into an early start.
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Old 08-30-2006, 02:51 PM   #8
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well I'll tell you this, the seals certainly do NOT seem to be migrating along with any bass
maybe I should move further south.

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Old 08-30-2006, 03:03 PM   #9
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cooler temp in late august provoked a drop in water temp

one week of dismal weather, ie lack of sunlight.......could be very possible that these fish are thinking to believe that it is 3rd week in september..

I have to check my log book and see what the air/water temp was in last week of august last year in Rhode Island


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Old 08-30-2006, 03:08 PM   #10
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From what I saw over the past 10 days or so. I dont think its early at all. but rather right on time. Big Dave
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:11 PM   #11
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:29 PM   #12
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I am trying to shed some light, I think fish movements now are just a shuffle from deeper water drawn in by cooler temps and the abundance of bait, Fisheye, while you may be right, I have caught quality bass in the bay (midbay) until November last year, where ever exodus happens in the next week or so certainy happens at a trickle, IMO.

No doubt mother nature can play tricks with wild animals who's moves are determined in part by sun angles and all that other super technical stuff.....or is it? no one ever really knows what triggeres them, unless your a fish you cant know. My opinion is the Migration starts when the water temps tell it to start. I just think its to early to say that the influx -or- better fishing as of late, of fish here in Rhode Island are fish from up North...My thinking is its fish that were here already just hangin offshore.

As far as looking at fish and seeing there markings, that just doesnt work for me, You could very well have fish from Southwest ledge and points south that have moved in your way, there are thousands of bass that hang between the southwest corner of Block Island and the rips off Montauk, maybe some peeled of and hit your shores.. Watch hill and fishers Island are not from from you the way the crow flys, 3 or 4 days of certain winds can certainly push bait and fish your way.

Wind direction can change currents and thus move fish around, thats not "migration". Evereytime we have a nor'est blow we do well after....all summer long. Anyone knows that any east facing shoreline lights up after a north east strom.

Bottom line is every single thing said is speculation, the only sure thing is that they will migrate! I just dont think its right now. I think iots great you have those fish and since we are a few days from sept. They will most likely stay your way.
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:35 PM   #13
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Bodies of fish move all the time - not necessarily "migrating" if you mean moving south. If you refer to any movement of fish as migrating then I guess they're always migrating.
Fish are still here in my neck of Rhody and I can't tell whether they're residents. Alberto, you can look at markings and tell? They all look like bass to me - they're all residents - some just are residents for a shorter period.

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