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12-25-2006, 01:55 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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They will shoot their eyes out!
 OK....with that out of the way I have a question! My boys recieved bb guns as a gift from their Uncle on their Mothers side.......course they have no yard to speak of for their use so I guess its Dad's place they will use them!  They are as in the movie, Red Rider models and my question is in regards to the use of bb guns, the legal parameters and whether permits are necessary or not for their use??? Any helpful information in this regard or links to the same would be appreciated.....I just want to teach them the proper way to handle these bb guns safely! Thanks for any help!
Larry 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-25-2006, 06:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,036
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Geez, I am awake before my daughter!! I remember my first BB gun on Xmas! There is a good safety read at the website below.
http://www.bb-guns.org/infobbguns.html
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12-25-2006, 07:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,945
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MA say ya gotta have a FID card.
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12-25-2006, 07:51 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
Posts: 4,547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl F
MA say ya gotta have a FID card.
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I think that changed. It is an air rifle and uses no powder so it doesn't fall under firearms anymore.
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12-25-2006, 07:55 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,945
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couldn't buy BB's without showing FID card last year at the Goose... 
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12-25-2006, 08:11 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
Posts: 4,547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl F
couldn't buy BB's without showing FID card last year at the Goose... 
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some stores are still using these rules even though it isn't the law. The only requirement is to be 18 years of age.
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12-25-2006, 07:56 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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the shooting gallery
you need a place in the cellar
where you can mount a piece of plywood
with an old rug nailed to it...to
absorb a bb shot so it doesnt bounce back!
then you need some special flip over when hit targets
like any shooting range has.... with scores on them
and a place to keep score.
a place to mount paper targets....
 they used to make bullet traps
it was like a square funnel gismo...
a place to post firearm safety rules!
the gun is always loaded even when completely
out of bb's deal...
and never be pointed at each other thing ever!
(or risk loosing it altogether)
and shooting glasses for safety...just in case.
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12-25-2006, 11:03 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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I am not exactly sure about BB guns. As Mac say they are not considered guns in and of themselves. Last I checked you need and f.i.d. car to buy the ammo (bb's). You did not need and f.i.d. card to possess the "gun". I will check Thursday morning and print the whole shebang right here for everyone's edification. My only advice is to keep them under lock and key for safety and monetary reasons.
A few years ago there was numerous pieces of heavy equipment not far from a development. The equipment was being used to do over some sports fields. To make a long story shot, these little angels (mothers words) who were left alone from 2:15 p.m. everyday until single mom came home from work, at a law firm, where she was employed as a paralegal. They jimmied door open to where bb gun was kept. They not only shot out windows in the equipment they actually shot at the operator. They would take off running. Never were caught. We did come up with a witness who saw the kids running into the home around the time they were being chased. Talked to kids briefly. Cant say much without an adult. Took possesion of the BB gun.
Enter mom who like I said works for law firm. Nasty girl. Not my kids. Never. She accused me of forcing my way into her home and stealing the bb gun. Said I didn't have enough probable cause and would never get a conviction should a complaint issue in court against her kids. I thought about it, and maybe she was right. I put a report together and gave it to the company owner who lost about $30,000.00 worth of windows, and he turned it over to his insurance agency who got all the money they needed to replace the windows in the heavy equipment. All they need is 51% in civil court should the mom be sued. So the moms homeowners got stuck with the bill for repairs.
You know what she demanded the BB gun back. It went in the smelter at the foundry.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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12-25-2006, 11:30 AM
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
Posts: 8,592
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Larry, maybe you'll win a "Major Award "too. 
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" Choose Life "
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12-25-2006, 12:36 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
Posts: 6,234
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General Information
Massachusetts requires a state license for firearms dealers.
Massachusetts law covers many other areas, too numerous to mention in this brief review. For example, the following actions are prohibited:
discharging a gun within 150 feet of a state or hard-surfaced road or highway [Chapter 131, section 58];
discharging a gun within 500 feet of a building or dwelling in use without the permission of the resident;
selling a gun to a minor;
providing a handgun to a minor;
selling a gun to unlicensed persons;
trespassing on posted land with guns;
possession of an air rifle by a minor (unless in the presence of an adult) without a special permit; and
possession on any school grounds without prior written permission.
Chapter 269: Section 12B. Air rifles; possession by minors; shooting
Section 12B. No minor under the age of eighteen shall have an air rifle or so-called BB gun in his possession while in any place to which the public has a right of access unless he is accompanied by an adult or unless he is the holder of a sporting or hunting license and has on his person a permit from the chief of police of the town in which he resides granting him the right of such possession. No person shall discharge a BB shot, pellet or other object from an air rifle or so-called BB gun into, from or across any street, alley, public way or railroad or railway right of way, and no minor under the age of eighteen shall discharge a BB shot, pellet or other object from an air rifle or BB gun unless he is accompanied by an adult or is the holder of a sporting or hunting license. Whoever violates this section shall be punished by a fine of not more than one hundred dollars, and the air rifle or BB gun or other weapon shall be confiscated. Upon a conviction of a violation of this section the air rifle or BB gun or other weapon shall, by the written authority of the court, be forwarded to the colonel of the state police, who may dispose of said article in the same manner as prescribed in section ten.
Chapter 269: Section 12A. Air rifles; sale to minors
Section 12A. Whoever sells to a minor under the age of eighteen or whoever, not being the parent, guardian or adult teacher or instructor, furnishes to a minor under the age of eighteen an air rifle or so-called BB gun, shall be punished by a fine of not less than fifty nor more than two hundred dollars or by imprisonment for not more than six months.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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12-26-2006, 01:23 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,203
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Check with a local Rod and Gun club. a lot of them run an NRA Sponsored Safety Course, passing it also allows them to get an FID at an earlier age (14, I think). Always a great place to start if the kids are going to start shooting
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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12-26-2006, 01:59 PM
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Registered LUser
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mashpee, MA
Posts: 643
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Just send the kids over our house. We have a plethora of squirrels and mice, and the cats aren't doing the trick.
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The worst day fishing is better than the best day working. ...Wait a minute, my work IS fishing. Sweet.
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12-26-2006, 04:43 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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My kids learned on 22's.. They took range instruction and merit badge instruction in BSA, by qualified instructor . They also were trained in pistols at a local gun club youth pragram .. $1.00 wensday nights inside range . I think most clubs have youth training . I wasn't qualified. We learned shooting bb guns at eachother. Kids are curious,, They find a piece in someone eles house, its better they are educated ,.
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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12-26-2006, 04:54 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Went to Hanover PD today......you do not need an FID card to posess or use a bb gun. Just supervision with the kids and of course all safety measures and common sense observed! We used the guns today on some cans....had lots of fun with the boys! Great way to get them outside and away from the computer/video games! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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