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01-09-2007, 06:52 PM
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All up in the Interweb!
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Real seat failure?
Anyone else run into this? On many of my non-plate seats, the hood has come apart from the theaded part. This happens more often on spinners, but has happened enough on conventionals to erk me. I now run plate seats on all my spinners I wrap. I have had reels get so stuck under the hoods after the threaded part comes off, that I have to cut the hood. That's a quick way to force me to have to re-wrap another rod.
These are the seats I am referring to that fail. No pictures of a busted one, but I have a rod to be re-wrapped that I may take a picture of later.

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01-09-2007, 06:57 PM
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All up in the Interweb!
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Just went and took a picture of what I mean.
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Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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01-09-2007, 06:59 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Yup! I got one that did that! Its a bugger to get the reel off when it does that! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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01-09-2007, 07:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
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Toby,
It happens on the one rod I have which has a reel seat. Here is what i do: On my Fuji reel seat there is a "slot notch" on the bottom of the hood - I help the hood along with a screwdriver while I turn the threaded disk.
All my other rods have cork tape and I attach reels with electrical tape. That was the one and only spinning rod I ever had a reel seat put on - and the last.
Just curious - how many of you use electrical tape? I can't be the only old school guy here.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
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01-09-2007, 07:35 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
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I have had that happen i was able to get the stuck part off with a hammer an a blunt stone chisel i had..
I have at 4 rods with the real taped on..
I could never decide where to put the seat...
2 of are my main weapons..
They work fine..
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01-09-2007, 08:22 PM
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All up in the Interweb!
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All my rods get a plate seat with electrical tape over to secure the reel now. After I re-wrap the one pictured above, I will only have one rod left with a screw type seat on my spinners. When that one goes, I'll change it over to a plate too. I'm happy (sort of) to hear this isn't just a case of user error on my part in some way.
I have a solid set of measurements for the reel seat that I like on different length rods, so I secure the plate seats with thread and epoxy. Tried straight electrical tape for a season, but didn't like having to remove the tape every time I switched the reel or needed to clean it.
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Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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01-10-2007, 09:12 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DZ
Toby,
Just curious - how many of you use electrical tape?
DZ
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still tape to some of my glass rods and one of my graphite spinners. I like the feel without the seat, but the seats are convenient. Also haven't had a problem yet with fuji seats.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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01-10-2007, 08:13 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: trying for Truro
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Broke the entire seat loose from my St. Croix Ben Doerr. Went to Fuji reel seats, started electrical taping them on, but found that the seat would travel. Started using epoxy and thread, happy ever since.
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01-10-2007, 08:34 AM
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Registered User
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Location: jerseyshore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ptmike
Broke the entire seat loose from my St. Croix Ben Doerr. Went to Fuji reel seats, started electrical taping them on, but found that the seat would travel. Started using epoxy and thread, happy ever since.
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I have seen this happen to the St.Croix's..
Seems they use a 3 pc seat configuration..
I have that clamp on one of my toggin rods..
A glass rod a friend gave me I was leary but i figure what the heck.
I boated a nice tog over 10 lbs with it with no tape on the locking mechanism..
I would consider usin those.If I needed to use a seat..
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01-10-2007, 08:46 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: North Stonington, CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ptmike
Broke the entire seat loose from my St. Croix Ben Doerr. Went to Fuji reel seats, started electrical taping them on, but found that the seat would travel. Started using epoxy and thread, happy ever since.
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Same here, pretty sure that was St Croix's fault and they were PacBay seats. I tape spinning reels on, mostly so I can move reel a bit, it saves time building and changing the cork tape takes just a few minutes. Down to one conv. and it clamps to rod.
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01-10-2007, 10:26 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: trying for Truro
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The only problem with the Fugi's I have had is the clip on the adjustable slide that locks your reel in place can open (it's happened on my rod rack on the truck) so I put a loop of electrical around that.
The St. Croix seat was a PITA to get off - had to hacksaw it carefully so I didn't damage the blank. It's still one of my favotite rods, and I like the feel better now with just the Fugi seat.
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01-10-2007, 10:31 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
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We've heard lots of complaints about reel seats on St croix factory rods. I wonder why?
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Saltheart
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01-10-2007, 12:09 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: trying for Truro
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Maybe the glue they used to hold the seat to the blank was bad or they didn't use enough? Mine was my first true surf rod, not some 2 piece $40 special. A great rod- if I want another one I'll just get the blank.
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01-10-2007, 01:26 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltheart
We've heard lots of complaints about reel seats on St croix factory rods. I wonder why?
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They used to use cardboard underneath as a bushing. Don't know if they still do 
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