how do you guys feel about...

[J_T_R]

your plugs being sold on ebay by others, especially for those of you that don't build commercially. the last time i checked i saw a mac pikie go for $52 and right now there is a jigman pikie on there. i don't know about you guys, but i don't think i would feel too good about someone selling my stuff for a profit, unless i authorized it. i mean, if i am going to build plugs of that caliber, and trade them and give them away to others, i wouldn't want to see the same plugs catching big bucks on the auction site, especially when i could be the one putting them on there myself if i really wanted to. this isn't an attack on anyone selling the plugs- i'm just looking for some opinions from the guys that have plugs end up on ebay.

[Tagger]

some of them are trades ,,, alot of them are gifts ... "try this ".. saw one of my real early polaris type poppers up there ... embarrising .. I got mixed feelings about it ..

[capesams]

Once the little bird has left the nest....you have no controll...it's fair game to anyone who own's it.

[Jigman]

Originally Posted by capesams

Once the little bird has left the nest....you have no controll...it's fair game to anyone who own's it.

Pretty much sums it up. The only time I get a little pissed off is if it is a plug that someone ho'd and said they would test for me. I get no feedback, and they sell it as unused.

Jigman

[Labrador1]

I agree with Capesams and Jigman. People can do whatever they want with them once they leave my hands. Only thing I would say is that if someone was buying regularly from me and immediately turning around and selling them all for profit - I would probably not put that person too high on my priority list when it comes to selling my next batch.

[Rockfish9]

I agree with the last three, I dont control my (adult) childrens lives, I cant control my plugs once they leave the cave..... Must be the reason so many are "locked down" in the fortress....

[Jigman]

Originally Posted by Tagger

.. saw one of my real early polaris type poppers up there ...

That might be the biggest problem. That is, builder X makes a batch of plugs, still in the proto-type stage, not indended to be sold. May have used some lesser grade components (paint, clear, etc.) cause they were more concerned about seeing how the fish reacted to the plug than building it to last. Give a few away to people to get some feedback. Year or so later, after you've tweaked the plug some, you see that proto-type for sale. You now have a lessor plug out there, with your name associated with it, for sale.

Jigman

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by Jigman

That might be the biggest problem. That is, builder X makes a batch of plugs, still in the proto-type stage, not indended to be sold. May have used some lesser grade components (paint, clear, etc.) cause they were more concerned about seeing how the fish reacted to the plug than building it to last. Give a few away to people to get some feedback. Year or so later, after you've tweaked the plug some, you see that proto-type for sale. You now have a lessor plug out there, with your name associated with it, for sale.

Jigman

Thanks for that ..exactly .. . I'd say its buyer beware ,, Can't blame anyone for selling .. paying too much .,.many sell plugs to buy other plugs .. its part of the disease we have .... not a hater... like i said ... just freakin embarrissed sometimes .

[Slipknot]

don't worry about your early gems you gave me tagger I still have them all , they aren't going anywhere unless NIB swipes one

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

don't worry about your early gems you gave me tagger I still have them all , they aren't going anywhere unless NIB swipes one

LOL ,,, i think you got one of my first batch ... That yellow danny with the 2 belly holes, noway close to lining up ..If Nib wants a plug all he has to do is tell me .. Whats worse ? seeing your plug selling on ebay or nib posting everywhere what a piece of crap it is ..

[GattaFish]

I think if someone gives you a gift then it is NOT ok to put on ebay or sell it,,,, If someone who is not a commercial builder is kind enough to sell you something to offset costs because YOU have to have one of his plugs then it should be kept between the two of you.... If you have to sell it because of hardship then the first right of refusal should go to the guy you got it from.

Personally I would be honored to own some of the masterpieces I have seen on here.........

[Karl F]

mixed feelings at best.. what's the old punchline?.. kinda like watching your mother-in-law drive your brand new corvette off the side of the grand canyon....might sour some on swaps and stuff down the line.. seen some of mine go that way, and also some of the ones donated.. and the ones that ya give to folks.. then see them up for $.. oh well.. like CS said.. ya can't control them once they leave ya.. but.. might be a little more reluctant to let them go now.... I understand why some guys won't part with thiers.. or do so less willingly...myself.. i gotta problem.. can't let the ones i've gotten from others go.. and can't hang on to the ones i make.....

[Charleston]

Originally Posted by Karl F

. can't let the ones i've gotten from others go.. and can't hang on to the ones i make.....

I'm suffering from the same thing

[Nebe]

if someone sells a plug i made on ebay for say, 50 bucks,you must have done something right

look at it this way-
A- my plugs are in demand
B- My plugs are fetching 50 bucks
C- Thats 50 bucks that someone selling beachmasters wont get
D- once word spreads that my plugs are going for 50 bucks, the demand will increase, and you may feel inclined to raise your price.

[Karl F]

Originally Posted by Nebe

if someone sells a plug i made on ebay for say, 50 bucks,you must have done something right

look at it this way-
A- my plugs are in demand
B- My plugs are fetching 50 bucks
C- Thats 50 bucks that someone selling beachmasters wont get
D- once word spreads that my plugs are going for 50 bucks, the demand will increase, and you may feel inclined to raise your price.

All well and good for you commercial guys, but there are still some of us, that don't sell.. strictly hobby types.

[justplugit]

Don't have to worry about any of mine gettin sold. But no matter what, i would never sell a plug someone gave me.

Too me, they're a labor of love and the personality of the guy is part of them.Could never put a price on that.

[Pete F.]

Kinda like after I helped my brother build his house pretty much gratis, he said if he did that again he could make some money. I told him the next one is not free.

[luds]

I've sold alot of plugs on this site and the other one. In alot of cases the builders are from s-b but all of what I've sold has been payed for by me.

I have a few that were given to me that I would never sell. They have to much senimental value and that's worth far more than $$$$$.

[tattoobob]

I feel the same way if some one gives me a plug I will never sell it, it gets fished and I give feed back to the builder, If I buy a plug and it doesn't get used as much or I have never caught on it, It is my choice to do what I like with it.

I always post my stuff here first to pass it along.

[Slipknot]

You have to remember, Mac is not making anymore plugs and have a good reputation of catching, so they fetch a few more dollars now that he is no longer building.


I think it obviously would bother the original builder if a plug or plugs were given to someone and they then turn a profit from it/them. But once it leaves your hands, you have no control over what happens to it.

what if a plug you donated to a fundraising raffle sold later on for big bucks by the winner ??? nothing much you can do about it, he won it fair and square and has every right to sell it or fish it or collect it.

If plugs are sold, there usually is a reason. sometimes ya need the money more than you need the plug anymore. I make a point to not sell any that were given to me, but if I have to sell some swap plugs or plugs I bought, I will if I need the money more than I need the plug and I'd hope the builder would understand just like I understand when others do it.

I've given away way too many plugs in the past and now a days I just lose them to trades, fish and operator error .

Plugs are like your little children, scared to let them go.

[northfork larry]

I guess for some people making $20 or $30 on someone elses work once in a while seems pretty innocent and harmless and in a capitalist nation it is certainly not illegal. Immoral?,aggravating? scurvy?, you bet. A lot of what I see being done in business, big and small leaves a bit to be desired, but we here on this site who build and trade and give away plugs know right from wrong and don't usually get involved with the jerks who don't if we can help it. I recently sold some plugs to a fellow with the thinly disguised warning that if anything underhanded went on with the transaction that I couldn't in good concience deal with him again and guess what? Within 2 days one of them was on E-Bay. That was a mistake that he'll not get another chance to make. Nuff said.

[NIB]

Hey Larry I have a few of ur BD's an I am a big fan..
Would never sell any of emm...
Slip, I never said I wanted a tagger plug...
I have been on good behavior over here don't get me started..
Tagger why do u think no one has any NIB plugs..
U guys are much better than me..
Plus the plug review is fun.
Some just have no clue..
Look at RI Popper...
Every body tells them there stuff is NICE!
I felt it was my doody to set the record straight as a service no a diservice.
Many have come to me later tellin me I was right..Including winch...

[thortum]

Just a thought: I was reading just this morning about someone on this site finding 30 [?] plugs in the heads of dead fish that had washed up on the beach! Great source of e-bay material.

[NIB]

Good u could use to spit out a few lunches...

[winchmaster]

Many have come to me later tellin me I was right..Including winch...

Most definetly,
Tony was right. I now look back at my early stuff as most of us probably have and think . I even spent a day in the shop bandsawing a bunch I still had left. Yeah it may hurt for someone to dish your first borns but it pushed me to work hard and try to make them better. Thanks Tony!
Now if I could get Nib to give me another kick in the butt to get back into the shop, I'd be happy. I Haven't turned a plug since RI.

[Backbeach Jake]

I don't know the seller's financial situation, so I can't judge them. But, but if they needed cash for whatever and felt that they could get some money for one of my plugs ( yeah, right) then I'd be glad to have helped out. The point is, I GAVE the plug, now it's theirs to do with as they please. Hang it, fish it, pay the rent, give it away. It's all fine by me.

[numbskull]

Gee, Fred. I pray over the one you gave me.

[Backbeach Jake]

Yeah, I pray over mine to: Please Lord, let these swim right side up....for a change.

[eastendlu]

Originally Posted by winchmaster

Many have come to me later tellin me I was right..Including winch...

Now if I could get Nib to give me another kick in the butt to get back into the shop, I'd be happy. I Haven't turned a plug since RI.

Dam i knew i gave you too many at the plugfest.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by winchmaster

Many have come to me later tellin me I was right..Including winch...


Now if I could get Nib to give me another kick in the butt to get back into the shop, I'd be happy. I Haven't turned a plug since RI.

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