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01-27-2007, 06:37 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Fairhaven
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Todd Helton at 1B batting 2nd?
What do you think the Sox should give up to get Todd Shelton?
DelCarmen, Hansen, Ellsbury have all been mentioned, as well as Lowell and Freddy Kruger.
The Rockies would have to eat half the $90M he's owed ove rthe next 6 years, and he does have some back issues.
I don't see why they would not deal any of the above...
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01-27-2007, 06:50 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
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Freddy Kruger eh? OH you mean.... Tavarez...  
I don;t know what I think of Helton.... hasn;t he sucked the last few years...? If he sucks in Colorado he'll Blow here in Boston and in he AL. I'll have to look at his stats but I'm not too high on him right now.
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01-28-2007, 02:14 AM
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I need spring!
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Weymouth, MA
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ESPN says the deal starts with Lowell and Tavarez, plus Hansen and/or Delcarmen. Absolutely ridiculous. I don't think I'd trade Lowell straight up for Helton, never mind throwing in all that pitching.
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01-28-2007, 08:55 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
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i'm with cal- no way on that deal! wtf are they thinking? 6 yrs at 90 mil left on deal....helton and drew- 30 mil per...'freekin' nuts.
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01-28-2007, 08:55 AM
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Fox sports says Hansen + 2 prospects and Rockies eating 50% of Helton's contract. Sox would then trade Lowell (1 year leftat $9M) to SD for relief. All conjecture at this point.
I'd rather have performers vs potential. Gold Glove 1b w/ .333 BA. I acknowledge Larry Anderson for Bagwell. I prefer to look at Pavano and Armas Jr for Pedro.
Best case- Helton becomes 04 Helton. Hansen becomes Schiraldi.
Worst case - Helton becomes Javy Lopez/. Hansen becomes what? Meredith?
I'm gonna go get more Kool-Aid.
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01-28-2007, 09:11 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Ummmm....no!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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01-30-2007, 07:46 AM
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Wow, I had no idea the Rockies wanted option "E. All of the above". Good to walk away from that one. I think the PR pressure got to their owner.
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01-30-2007, 08:18 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Being a NL guy I have watched Todd helton play since he came up..
This guy is the real deal..
He can flat out play..
He can Hit with Manny any day without the headaches..
look at the numbers..
He has a much better walk to SO ratio also..
Missed 17,an 18 games last 2 yrs..
Add him to a winning enviroment an I bet his numbers go up..
Playin for pride only in Colorado
At 33 yrs old i would bet he has a few more good yrs left in him.
16 mil sounds like alot but the salary numbers are out of control this yr..
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01-30-2007, 07:58 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Landlocked in my own prison
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The Sox need to turn their focus on signing Shilling to an open end contract extension. Pay him to play in Boston until he walks away from the game.
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01-30-2007, 08:23 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Supposedly a dead deal now....good news there. They wanted to much for him.
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01-30-2007, 07:20 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Freddie Kruger and Matt Clement straight up for him I say yes !
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LETS GO BRANDON
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01-30-2007, 07:27 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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I would trade Matt Clement for a good horse!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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01-30-2007, 07:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Whitman,Ma.
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Larry..You might want to think twice about that,considering what I heard on WEEI about horses this morning..  |
I'm going where I'm going... 
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01-31-2007, 07:40 AM
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What was that!?!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Kingston, NH
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when will they learn that pitching is worth way more than hitting.
we cant get to the playoffs without pitching.... did we forget about 06 already.? i still think delcarmen and hansen will turn into some hefty players in the next couple years.
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