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02-08-2007, 08:56 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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How hard to pull
We have two threads going now that relate to hooks,line, and leaders. When you put all of this stuff together you get a system, or a bunch of parts combined that act as one. How do you use the system that you've put in place with regard to how hard you fight a fish? Do you lock the drag and horse, or do you patiently wait for a submission?
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02-08-2007, 09:07 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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great question
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02-08-2007, 09:12 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,036
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I use a pair of pump pliers to tighten my drag as much as possible then, I tos the rod over my shoulder and just walk away from the water, if my truck is close at hand I may just tie off to the bumper and drive the fish out 
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02-08-2007, 09:40 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
I use a pair of pump pliers to tighten my drag as much as possible then, I tos the rod over my shoulder and just walk away from the water, if my truck is close at hand I may just tie off to the bumper and drive the fish out 
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Nah Nah Nah ....you already have your truck up on the jack
with the tire taken off....then ya just wrap your line a few times
around the Van Stal polished rim .....then ya shift into low !
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02-08-2007, 11:29 AM
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end of the fence guy
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: tiverton ri
Posts: 749
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
I use a pair of pump pliers to tighten my drag as much as possible then, I tos the rod over my shoulder and just walk away from the water, if my truck is close at hand I may just tie off to the bumper and drive the fish out 
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thats why hes my hero 
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boat fish dont count
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02-08-2007, 11:31 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cumberland, RI
Posts: 2,264
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
I use a pair of pump pliers to tighten my drag as much as possible then, I tos the rod over my shoulder and just walk away from the water, if my truck is close at hand I may just tie off to the bumper and drive the fish out 
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Pump Pliars are for hacks. I Arc weld my spool to the reel shaft. It has yet to loosen up.
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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02-08-2007, 11:42 AM
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woody
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Port St Lucie Fla.
Posts: 1,062
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I use 50 #Cortland Braid and a five foot shock leader 40# mono with a Alberto knot the drag no to tight I love it when it sings !!and with all the years of experience every fish is different I use fineness the fish wiil get tired first don't horse it in .. 
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You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a
Clipboard.
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02-08-2007, 12:07 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Onset
Posts: 1,228
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As lite a drag as possible, especially since I only use braid. The drag is there for a reason..........use it. And I always loosen it when a fish is close to being landed. Cranked drags = lost fish and bent hooks
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02-08-2007, 09:12 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: South County
Posts: 1,070
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Depends how much lobster gear I've got in front of me.
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02-08-2007, 09:19 AM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
Posts: 3,605
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The rod your using is an important consideration as well as whether you're fishing plugs or eels. I use a much tighter drag when I'm eeling with a single hook. I lighten up with plugs because vmc's bend so easily.
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02-08-2007, 09:17 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,990
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This is a big lesson I learned last season while fishing several places.
For a long time I always kept a very tight drag and tried to bring fish in as quickly as possible. My reasoning was the more time fish were in the water, more time for them to break off or come unbuttoned.
I have alot of faith in my connections, that they will hold up to strong pull and pressure.
But we were fishing a bunch of different spots that are real bony, and even though fish were coming in quickly, they were green. Good sized bass had the power to dig down into the rocks and either pop out the hooks or rub the line into rocks enough to break off.
It wasnt about the power to stop them, or connections. We could have used 100lb test, I think it still would have happened.
So after a strong hookset, I now loosen the drag some to let fish make a run or two. They move away instead of digging down. After those few short runs, its amazing how easily fish come after they are tired out.
Of course, this doesnt work for eveywhere. Someplaces you need to stop them in their tracks, others you can let them run all night. But for most of the terrain I fish, letting the bass make a run helps in my landing ratio.
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Sooner or later you're going to realize just as I did that there's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. - Morpheus
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02-08-2007, 09:23 AM
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
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A big fish will pop your line or pull/straighten the hook. Thats why reels come with drags. 
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02-08-2007, 09:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
Posts: 3,748
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I set my drags at 1/4 the breaking strength of the line (or leader if it's lighter than the main line) I do this with a spring scale, after a nights fishing I back them off.. if danger is unavoidable (lobster pots, rocks or nit wit watching the fight) a light finger applied to the spool will suffice... 1/4 the line rating is a pretty tight drag, most people dont realize just how tight that is....
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02-08-2007, 10:10 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 297
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Also how do you change your style in hook set, fight, drag loosing and tightening when using mono vs. braid?
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02-08-2007, 11:35 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 4,716
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I keep a firm drag most of the time but not always, it depends where I'm fishin. Depending on water dept and structure is wether or not I let off drag... IMO your odds go down when you increase max pressure. I like to use the heaviest tackle I can get away with,one I can get the fish in quicker increaseing the odds of fish surviving and two the obviouse. Crazy Al preaches ..Use the right tool for the job, fresh line and line capacity and stout stick a must.
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02-08-2007, 11:41 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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Yah, but, have you ever landed two different fish that weigh the same but fight completely different battles? The basic system should alwasy be the same great knots, tightly tied, reliable terminal tackle, and a willingness to loosen the grad if necessary.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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