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Old 02-13-2007, 11:49 AM   #1
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abu big game question

What advantage is there with this line of reels? Besides holding more line do they have heavier drags than the other abu's?

thats why they call it fishing not catching
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Old 02-13-2007, 11:51 AM   #2
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Brass side plates = more rigid frame
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Old 02-13-2007, 11:53 AM   #3
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how do thet cast?

thats why they call it fishing not catching
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Old 02-13-2007, 12:01 PM   #4
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They cast great. The reels are heavier than the regular 7000s. Not sure by how much. But I do recall being able to tell the difference after a night of casting.
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Old 02-13-2007, 12:13 PM   #5
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I have a big game 7000cl and it casts well but I am not that great with conventional but my mag elite casts much better, but that is not really a fair comparison.
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Old 02-13-2007, 02:10 PM   #6
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7000CL is at an unfair advantage -v- a Mag Elite 6500 (never saw bigger than 6500 size) but a 6500CL is 98% the caster of the Mag Elite.. At least tha of my rundown Mag E's

'Course right now my main 6500 has the Big Game drive side on one side of the spool and the magged greenie on the other

The 7000CL Casts great for a 7000 and is solid with the brass plates. How does it compare to a CS Rocket? No clue...

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Old 02-14-2007, 09:33 AM   #7
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Original Black BG reels were the best. I have enough 7000CL's stocked up so I doubt I'll ever fish with any other reel in that size range. I even prefer the bg6500cl to my mag elites . that's only cause of the mag slider control but wthe black ones are my favorite. I have a callcutta or 3 and they have better drags but all around , I like the Black Big games.

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Old 02-14-2007, 09:38 AM   #8
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http://tackledirect.com/abu-garcia-a...ies-reels.html

Oh yea looking at the picture.There where a few other things thats are different.The collar that holds the New cabontex drag system is longer which makes the handle further away from the body..

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Old 02-14-2007, 09:53 AM   #9
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I just recived one that I ordered from Cabelas, It seems like a very heavy duty solidly built reel, let you know when I fish it.
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:07 AM   #10
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Hey Bill,
Did u go 7000 or 7000 HSN which is a perfect size for the surf.
Do u plan on using it in the surf or boat..

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Old 02-14-2007, 10:22 AM   #11
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NIB,
the clutch lever still engages with the turn of the handle. You dont need to manually flip the clutch. I prefer it to the push button.

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Old 02-14-2007, 11:01 AM   #12
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Hey Bill,
Did u go 7000 or 7000 HSN which is a perfect size for the surf.
Do u plan on using it in the surf or boat..
I baught the HSN Model and plan to use it for livelining out of the boat there wont be much "casting" , For years I used the standard size 7000 for surf casting , if I were to have the choice I think the HSN may be a better surf choice a tad smaller...When I toss eels from the boat at night I use the Calcutta 400B Just like in the surf acually I use the 400 for everything but livelining or chunking heavy stuff..I have 6 of them! They are almost bullet proof.The Abu's are inexpensive and I dont mind beating them up livelining or chunking etc...

The only problem I had using them surf fishing was just a bit of water and the drags sucked I wasnt the only one, everyone had that problem...Almost daily taking it apart and cleaning the drags etc...And I had every model they made...they were all equally bad in the surf as far as water inrtusion, the canal etc...is different your not dealing with waves etc...

In the boat I have had no problems with my standard 7000 but it really doesnt get wet..thats why I baught this one.

For surf fishing conventional the calcutta 400B is the best reel out there. I would just go with that and be done with it.


As far as the clutch lever, I like it , it has a much beefier feel and if you know how to fish conventional it wont be a big adjustment from the pushbutton
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Also the thought comes to me that we have seen the last of the truly good low priced reels. From now on I think we'll be paying through the nose for anything better.

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Old 02-14-2007, 02:51 PM   #14
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That about sums it up, they suck for surf fishing, I used them for alot of years before I smartened up...I would not call failing drags when the reel is wet a dependable reel???? I dont know anyone who enjoys disasembling a reel daily just so it can be ready for the next night?? many a nice fish has been lost due there terrible drags..The aniti reverse is another part they never quite got right fails all the time, the levelwind also gets stuck more aften then not, it only takes one speck of sand, they just cant stand up to surf fishing.
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No shimano's here..


The Abu drags have been bad for yrs.There's ways around everything.My friend changed out the drags on some of my abu's..Using penn an shimano parts.
They supposedly have fixed the drag problems with the new reels.

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Old 02-14-2007, 03:13 PM   #17
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No shimano's here..


The Abu drags have been bad for yrs.There's ways around everything.My friend changed out the drags on some of my abu's..Using penn an shimano parts.
They supposedly have fixed the drag problems with the new reels.
shimano parts why not just go with a shimano??
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shimano parts why not just go with a shimano??
I already owned a fleet of ABU's.No need for a new reel when a 1 dollar part gives me the best bang for my buck.I personally have not had the problems u have.I have fished em in conditions that would certainly effected the drag like u have said an have not had the troubles.I have one calcutta a 700 it's too big for the surf but it's a fine reel.To each their own.

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Old 02-14-2007, 04:14 PM   #19
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my 7000 let me down wet drag . the smoothie washers are worse than the stock ones when there wet. calcutta 400

boat fish dont count
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The Abu drags have been bad for yrs.There's ways around everything.My friend changed out the drags on some of my abu's..Using penn an shimano parts.
They supposedly have fixed the drag problems with the new reels.

someone is going to poke their eye out in that foray .
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