saltiga z or back to van staal - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

striperchaser · 03-04-2007, 01:13 AM

i owned one vs250 and vs150 both are second hand sold both of them after the last season....
looking for new alternative for the coming season. i am very interested in the saltiga z.. what are you guys' experience with this reel.. i fish a lot in wetsuit => deep wading on sand bar or rocks, but not drifting in currents... can those reel handle dunk, semi-submerge ( i do rinse and clean my reel after everytrip). what size will be great for 10'-11'???? how is the drag??? thanks..

piemma · 03-04-2007, 08:49 AM

Talk to JoeP.

GattaFish · 03-04-2007, 04:05 PM

Make sure you let us all know,,, I am interested to know,,,, I have a VS and have been very happy,,,,, Might try something different for a back up,,,,,,

Pete_G · 03-05-2007, 08:40 AM

I don't remember exactly what tlapinski did to his Saltiga, but there were a lot of bearings and other parts that had to be replaced at the end of one season due to corrosion. Waterproof it is not, if you get too carried away with your wading. It was covered by Daiwa if I remember correctly.

I don't own one but the general consensus I get is it is dunkable; submerging might be pushing the envelope though.

tlapinski · 03-05-2007, 05:17 PM

It couldn't even crank any more when I sent it in this year. Started off with just a "hitch" in the spool at top and bottom of oscillation, then became simply a vessel to store extra line not too long after. Despite my best efforts, I could not get her to even move. In 2005 I broke the foot and also wasted the insides. Had corrosion on the internal bearrings and it was louder than a dry 706. All was replaced and I went back at it this year. I fished less this season than the one before, and it still crapped out around mid September. The "hitch" developed when I set the hook on what turned out to be a rock. I was amazed that a reel that is designed to handle tuna while deep jigging broke when I set the hook on an immovable object. How many times have we all done that while using anything from a $20 Benny's reel to a VS and the reel would keep on working? It's back to Van Staal for me.

Send me a Zee Baas.....

Pete_G · 03-05-2007, 07:53 PM

I still wouldn't not consider a Saltiga though, there's a lot of happy users out there. It's not my home territory, but the Canal is a spot where I hear the Saltiga has become a very popular choice.

We were talking about it in the shop a month or so ago. Back Beach and Ed B brought up something I never really considered, they both really like a smooth reel since they use the reel to feel a hit as much as the rod.

I always have my rod tip high, so the tightness most Van Staals have when cranked has never really been a factor for me.

The fact you wetsuit and are concerned about submersion might be something that points to sticking with the VS though.

striperchaser · 03-05-2007, 09:16 PM

thank you guys.. i guess it is time for me stick with the "proofed" van staal, but do they improve their drag system on the new 275???

RIROCKHOUND · 03-07-2007, 09:22 AM

Those saltigas have a distinct sound when they are singing in my ear on a good fish while I'm unhooking teens...

they look nice, and feel nice, but will they hold up better then the VS when I take my yearly fall on the rock?

JoeP · 03-08-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Those saltigas have a distinct sound when they are singing in my ear on a good fish while I'm unhooking teens...

they look nice, and feel nice, but will they hold up better then the VS when I take my yearly fall on the rock?

Yeah but the VS's also have a very nice drag sound - and other than that night yours rang more than mine last year...

RIROCKHOUND · 03-08-2007, 12:31 PM

NIB · 03-09-2007, 08:05 AM

I love reel talk..
Specially when Toby an PeterG chime in.
Toby beats em up good.
Peter is well spoken an Knows the product well.
There was a considerable buzz around the new High speed VS 275 when they where in the hands of the demo guys..
Seems they where trying to compete with the new Japanese Saltiga's.
There is a new market for these boat guys trying to land these big game fish on spinning gear..Not sure why perhaps casting is part of the equasion an most upper line class convetional gear is not suited for these applications.
There are times a faster reel could certainly be a asset.
Like in the canal.I use a saltiga 5000 Z there without the GT spool.
I would highly recommend making sure u get the GT spool if u decide on one in the 5000 size.I love it it's as fine an smooth a machine as I have ever feltl.While destroying every other fast retrieve reel I have tried at the canal the Saltiga has held up well for me..While it's kinda big for most humans, Slip uses one in the surf.
As far as tightness goes thats one of the reasons I sold my VS.
I use a 706 Z an I could not get use to it.
I want to get a VS 300 this season if I can find a decent (Loose) used one..
Or when my back pension comes in..
Here lots of good things about the shimano sphero's reels.Seems like a good quality affordable reel...I think if I had to knowing what I do now.I would go that way before I got whatever is currently available from penn.
I might also consider a diawa emblem.
While both these reels won't take a pure submerging on a regular basis they will certainly do the job for most surf applications..

daceman63 · 03-09-2007, 08:43 AM

Based on what I've read here and surfing through a few sites on-line I agree that the shimano sphero's reels seems like a good quality affordable reel so I will be looking to pick one up. I am going to wait for the MSBA Expo first though.....

NIB · 03-09-2007, 10:15 AM

Get it from Peter at the SWE.They are a fine shop that stands behind what they sell an equally as important they are a sponser here.The markup on reels are minimal so to think u will find a better deal ur probably only talkin about pennies..
U would not even know about it if it was not for guys like The Saltwater Edge who sponser this site..
We all took the time to educate u.
So...
Do the Right thing...

LeCounts1099 · 03-09-2007, 10:46 AM

Nib hits the nail on the head again!

Besides awesome stock, selection, knowledge & service... Pete G. & crew at SWE are among the finest people you could possibly buy your tackle from! Always a pleasure dealing w/ them...

Well, except maybe for Joe at SRI! (What great sponsors we have here!)... He once threw in an extra Tattoo $20. plug to my order of 7-8 plugs, that I'm sure must have killed his profit- margin on that order! But he now has a plug- ho customer for life!... and that "free" blurple 3 oz. Spook now has a prominent place in my night rotation!

slow eddie · 03-09-2007, 02:39 PM

i've been using penn spinners and abu conv. for years . no, make that decades. the penns i can take apart and put back together in 10 min. parts are easy to get. and when everything just plain wears out, i buy another and use the old one for parts. i fish so co. rocks, beach, whatever. rinse off my gear every time out. clean them inside and out once a month. 100.00 a shot. don't have to worry about sending it back to be serviced at 50.00 a pop every year. just my 2 cents.