Abrasion Test-Update (Part 1) - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

fcap60 · 03-05-2007, 08:32 PM

More to come in a few days.

The Test:

I layed a brick on a relatively flat surface, cut a short piece of mono/braid and rubbed (scraped it along the outer edge of a rough/course brick. I didn't use the sharp edge because I wanted to test the ABRASION resistance not the CUTTING resistance. Here the results of how many scrapes I made in the same general area before the line broke.

Is anyone suprised ?

Braid:

50lb Berkely gorilla tough (7X)
50 lb Stren Braid (3X)

Mono:

Ande 20lb premium (9X)
Ande 20lb Backcountry (20X)
Berkley 40Lb Trilene Big Game (47X)
Stren 14LB Magnaflex (2X)
Stren 20lb fluorocarbon (7X)

numbskull · 03-05-2007, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fcap60

More to come in a few days.

The Test:

I layed a brick on a relatively flat surface, cut a short piece of mono/braid and rubbed (scraped it along the outer edge of a rough/course brick. I didn't use the sharp edge because I wanted to test the ABRASION resistance not the CUTTING resistance. Here the results of how many scrapes I made in the same general area before the line broke.

Is anyone suprised ?

Braid:

50lb Berkely gorilla tough (7X)
50 lb Stren Braid (3X)

Mono:

Ande 20lb premium (9X)
Ande 20lb Backcountry (20X)
Berkley 40Lb Trilene Big Game (47X)
Stren 14LB Magnaflex (2X)
Stren 20lb fluorocarbon (7X)

I did something similar with Berkley Big Game and some expensive Stren Hi Impact super duper abrasion resistant line. The Big Game was about 5 x better. To do the test right, however, you want to soak the line a while.

ChiefLinesider · 03-06-2007, 12:21 AM

I think there are too many variables in the experiment. Tension on the line, pressure on the brick, length of stroke across brick, how the line will act after it has been used & exposed to the elements, etc.

I think simple pull tests are the most conclusive. With a nail at one end & scale on the other, slow steady pressure, w/ an assigned scale watcher to read the numbers. & use knots that are near 100%. Or whatever connection you will be using for the line in question.

I learned alot with this method

fcap60 · 03-06-2007, 04:03 AM

Chief- I agree there can be too many variables, just like there can be too many variables when fishing. so here's what I plan to do.

1. I can wet the brick and wet the line.
2. I need to apply the "law of avererages" to the test, so I plan to test each line 3x and see, on average, when it breaks.

Here's my thoughts on this. When a fish takes you into the rocks, it's probably an "area" of the line that's being rubbed off and weakened, not necessarily, a single point-although it could be. So I need to experiment some more. Again, I didn't want to test this on a sharp pont, because that would only tell me how line CUTS and not how ABRRASION RESISTANT it is.

Thanks and any suggestions are welcome

Stay tune, more to come this week when others give me a bunch of lines to test.

vanstaal · 03-06-2007, 06:04 AM

I think there are too many variables in the experiment. Tension on the line, pressure on the brick, length of stroke across brick, how the line will act after it has been used & exposed to the elements, etc. Ditto

JohnR · 03-06-2007, 06:17 AM

I think it is good for giving a rough baseline on the abrasion resistance - so much so that it is probably on par with or better than what the line manufacturers use when they quote their phenomenal abrasion resistance... Especially as this series of tests morphs through different contols

FCAP"Consumer Reporter"60

numbskull · 03-06-2007, 06:45 AM

Repeating each test several times and taking the average quickly eliminates (or minimizes) much of the variability.

Nebe · 03-06-2007, 08:27 AM

I wonder how 40 lb seaguar flourocarbon compares to 40 lb biggame ??

riverrat2 · 03-06-2007, 08:29 AM

Big game is the best, I have no need to try all these new lines that people hype up.

fcap60 · 03-06-2007, 09:10 AM

and by the way, if anyone wants, they can mail me any specific line to test out. I would say around 25' (in an envelope) should to it - so I can apply different tests.

I'll try a few different "rub/scrape tests". It may not be perfect, but I think it will be pretty accurate.

PM me for my address if you are interested

Frank

EricM · 03-06-2007, 02:42 PM

I double down on the idea of doing each test multiple times to reduce error. Look forward to the result and thanks for this great act of community service!

chuckg · 03-06-2007, 04:33 PM

Haven't seen yo=zuri hybrid on these tests, any chance of that? Have switched to Yo-z 20lb on an avet, no problems up to a 32#er caught.

chuckg · 03-06-2007, 04:34 PM

That was in the canal, but i forgot, I was using a 40 lb yo-z shocker

GattaFish · 03-06-2007, 04:50 PM

Set the brick on the edge of the table then lay the line over the edge and tie it to a weight on the floor. Drag the line accross the brick, lifting the weight off the floor. When you lift the brick lift it to the same height for each line by making a mark on the table as far as how far you will move the line, If you do that 3 times for each line it will take the majority of the variations out since you will be lifting the same weight and draggin the same amount of line accross the brick.
Rough sketch but should explain,,,,,,