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08-27-2007, 04:16 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lombardia
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Breakaway on the rocks
I just tried out the 50lb breakaway clips while fishing through boulder fields.
One of the things I like to do every once in a while (and it happens when I don't want it too as well, I'm no marksman with the surf rod  ) is to bank a creek chub popper off a boulder, but on my first bank shot attempt with the breakaway the plug neatly popped right off the clip and sank into the depths! That was it for me and the breakaways.
Tell me, was that a one in a million shot? I know I had it on right as I reviewed the discussions on the clips on this forum. Then again, I never really used any clips at all before August so perhaps that would happen with any clip or snap?
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08-27-2007, 05:07 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Use the 80# clips.....I have been using them for about 5 years! Fish the rocks at Cutty as well as in my local spots and have never had an issue with the Breakaway's! You sure you did not have the clip tied on upside down? Its easy to do if you are not careful.....I have always said that Breakaway should have a closed eye on the business end of the clips so there is A. no confusion as to which end to tie and B. to prevent the clip from reversing itself on the line during use! Don't give up on them for one incident.....how long you been using them?
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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08-27-2007, 06:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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EricM,
Congrats - You just had a perfect "Breakaway" on your first cast - for most of us it took us a while. Back to CoastLOCK for me.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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08-27-2007, 06:56 AM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
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You're going to have failures if you continue to bank plugs off the rocks on purpose. Coaslocks will be less likely to fail but your plug might still crack in half or the through wire could get reallly bent. It's happened to me.
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08-27-2007, 08:03 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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Bigfish,
Good point about user error. I know we all hate to admit it but we all make mistakes. For example with knots – there probably isn’t anyone here that hasn’t regretted tying a bad knot(and paying for it) once or twice. And in all fairness to Breakaway clips – I’ve also had failures with Coastlock snaps. Coastlocks get “soft” over time – experienced casters can feel the difference. If your black Coastlock snap is losing its paint - it has long past its time to be replaced. If it is unusually easy to change your plugs – change your snap.
All gear fails from time to time during periods of high stress – when gear fails without stress – a red flag should appear to the user.
One of the unique advantages of these online threads is being able to learn from the experiences (and mistakes) of others.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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08-27-2007, 08:56 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Coastlocks on plugs, Breakaways on jigs 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-27-2007, 09:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lombardia
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BigFish,
100% positive I had it on the right way. It was my first time using them so I searched through the forums here and double checked the posts to make sure I knew which end was the business end...plenty of gents here posted pics which showed which way was right and, unintentionally, if I remember, there was even a pic of which way was the wrong way to attach to a breakaway clip.
My cumulative experience with breakaway clips was a total of about
20 minutes before I went for the CCB bank shot that did result in the "perfect breakaway." I was enjoying the easy snap-on snap-off breakway experience until then...and then decided to experiment with coastlocks for the rest of the trip and had zero failures for the rest of the time. I've been tying direct previously and wanted to try something new.
And Luds, good point that something is bound to give banging plugs off of the rocks, I agree...but its fun to do sometimes...with a nice cheap industrial plug, that is...
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08-27-2007, 11:08 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Eric...chalk it up to a million in one incident and give the breakaways a shot....you will love them! Bump up to 80# clips for the salt though!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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08-27-2007, 09:13 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricM
BigFish,
100% positive I had it on the right way. It was my first time using them so I searched through the forums here and double checked the posts to make sure I knew which end was the business end...plenty of gents here posted pics which showed which way was right and, unintentionally, if I remember, there was even a pic of which way was the wrong way to attach to a breakaway clip.
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That was me. I used them upside down for two years and never had one fail plugging. Before that I had long since given up on snaps. Coastlock, crosslock, duolock, didn't matter they used to open all the time. Presumably the folks who have success with snaps use bigger ones than I did ( but they seemed to kill the action on the medium sized plugs I used back then) and I can't say I was ever smart enough to change them before they failed.
Last edited by numbskull; 08-28-2007 at 05:17 AM..
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08-28-2007, 07:10 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lombardia
Posts: 335
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OK, sounds like the mission is clear: upgrade my breakaway clips to 80lb and go for it one more time...good to know that they can be re-used over and over again, that is a good money-saving tip.
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08-28-2007, 12:27 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rowley
Posts: 3,781
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I fish rocks pretty much exclusively and whack plugs off of them all the time (not on purpose). I have destroyed plugs doing this, I've snapped a lot of swimmer plates right off and stuff like that, but the breakaways have never failed me in that way. Now I haven't caught any big fish on breakaways, so I can't attest to that kind of failure, but it seems like guys here do okay with them
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