I see lots of threads where the only thing that can describe what's going on is "men behaving badly". I think we need a special forum where threads like that can go but not be closed or deleted. I think people should be responsible for what they post. If they behave badly , the posts should hang around there neck like an anchor for a good long time. No more 50 derogatory posts then a plea to delete the threads and posts. you post it , you live with it and it becomes part of your internet personallity for all to see.
Right now , people post anything they want cause if it gets heated or people fight back it all gets wiped out like it never happened. why behave at all when all will be erased. Why not just blurt it out , , hurt feelings , make enemies since after a while all is forgiven with a delete button.
People need to be held accountable for what they say and to do that , what they post needs to remain visible for all to see.
now I see a need for some exceptions but that should consist of edited posts for super stupid personal stuff or blatantly threatening talk that could later bite some one but if someone just wants to be an a-hole for the day , well that should stay up so people know who the A holes are after repeated performances.
i love the conflict, and I hate seeing those threads deleted, & even locked.
i would love to see a "dumpster" or something where bad threads go to live and fester. out of the way so they don't clog up the main forums.
and i think that you restrict it so that people can't start threads in the dumpster, only bad threads get moved there. otherwise it just becomes another 'scuppers'
i love the conflict, and I hate seeing those threads deleted, & even locked.
i would love to see a "dumpster" or something where bad threads go to live and fester. out of the way so they don't clog up the main forums.
and i think that you restrict it so that people can't start threads in the dumpster, only bad threads get moved there. otherwise it just becomes another 'scuppers'
My concern is why should we allow the bad blood and attacks to further grate on people? Give people the opportunity to attack and pig pile?
Some people do it because they are angry.
Some to set other people off.
Some for sport.
And some, well, they just can't help themselves.
What is the answer?
why do people slow down to look at a car crash?
Its in our nature i guess.
if you make the dumpster forum, and thow it down towards the bottom, only those who dare enter will be further grated upon, and those who slug it out can have at it....
it will probably die pretty quick if it is not in the main forum.
since we've all agreed that eben has the best avatar ever, can we all agree that this is the, err, most questionable thread title ever, I was afraid to open it.
"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
never saw the post in question,you can tell winter is coming.that being said if bill was treated unfairly in an article then he has a right to respond.maybe the article should never have been accepted.
but saltheart is right on ... if they want a pissin /war & it doesn,t start in the BOYS forum ..one of the moderator has the ability to move it ;;
But I agree that we all are responsiable [sp] for what we post here .>& I thing John has been more than tolorent [sp] with many threads // >. but just shutting them down >. ???? I don,t know //I guess it dependson what level someone has taken it ;;
When it gets personal & its not ball busting then I feel there is a limit ..
yes we see alot of guys bust balls >. but most members know that they know each other [REAL} well & its all taken in good fun ;;
But I have also read post that are personally directed at the person / from someone that doesn,t even know that person /except what they have read & heard // && to me ,that a whole new level .. >> I wouldn,t call people names or characterize them & it gets done here quite abit >>. mostly by the same group // which is the only time //there should be a off limits or time out ;;
once you print it >>>>>>>> I feel that you are fair game / to be agreed /disagreed / or whatever / but once you go past that & single that person out personally because you believe so strongly against what they are saying or doing on the board // its you that should be shut down ;;
damn I missed that thread completely ;;
Ya don,t have to be a rocket engineer to see patterns
certain members can post something ..not much of a issue ///someone else will post the same post >> &&& all hell breaks loose >.
there are active members on this site /that wait to attack other s// && I bet you go to church on sunday >>>>>>>> so that makes up for the things that are said or applied about another person >>>>>>>>> ya should sit back & take your own inventory before you cast stones or threats ;;
also If someone is getting paid to write articles /which many do on the site ;;
the 1st I hear of it is from a post on this site // be it a + or - / that person has opened the DOOR ;;
It seems many people have recently /last 5 years taken up writing articles // personally I don,t have any idea why someone would choose to do that ;;
its not the money >.ya can make more recycling cans
some articles are informative / some are story telling .. which sometmes are the best / others are [HOw - To] // others are rehash of old articles /change a few words & photos / new article ;;
its ok by me > I look forward to the fisherman & OTW ;;
bottom line TO ME] is to each there own / & unless they open up the box // its their business not mine ;; i also go by what has been said here /since the beginning >. don,t like / no interest >>>>>>>>>>>>> Don,t F #$%^&*( read >>> it can,t get any simpler ;;
since we've all agreed that eben has the best avatar ever, can we all agree that this is the, err, most questionable thread title ever, I was afraid to open it.
Yes i think there needs to be a MAN forum. Men only. sausage fest.
Some posts have to be removed and the moderators should not have to explain why.
Also , This is not aimed at Bill specifically. Bill and I have always beeen good. I sure wouldn't want to face the competitiveness , jealousy and associated sniping (trolling) he has to put up with.
The question I pose has nothing to do with what is said or who said it. The question is , should you have to take responsibility for what you post by having it stay on the board for all to see and judge for themselves , or should everybodies bad behavior be whitewashed by totally making things disappear through kindly moderation? Are we creating more problems because people know that no matter how far things go in a thread , someone will erase the evidence of bad behavior?
if you want to pu$$y out and go back and edit, that is fair, but the record will show it was edited, and if someone quoted you, you lose.
but i can understand that some people don't like conflict (unlike me, i love it). that is why you throw it in a new area so the people that want rainbows and sunshine don't have to have this big conflict banging them in the face a the top of the list all day/night.
the idea of a dentention hall forum is cool. and it makes people take responsibility for what they write.
I love these debates about spot burning, oldschool vs. new school, boat v. shore, bait v. plug, quit early or go long, etc.....
But I cannot stand the raging politcal debates, and I was very happy when that got segmented, and I never, well hardly ever, will check that forum. So I know the system works.
Well then, can we opt to have ALL our posts deleted, posting priveleges eliminated, and IP banned... I know of more than one long time poster that would like this option
Why let the moderators have all the fun of eliminating posts....
to answer your one of your first questions... if it's posted.. let it stay.
HEY u horses butt..I still o u a bottle of water for your b-day...remind me the next time fa ch..sakes will ya.
Capesams how you doing?
you back to work yet? how's the new shop?
back to work? how about trying to get a day off an when sunday rolls around the old lady has her way with me..dang leaves....shops about two-3 weeks off from makin sawdust again...thank god.
Why fix what isn't broke? I don't see the need for a separate slam section. I'd never visit it. The majority of people here are very appropriate and knowledgable and if someone gets out of hand it's handled appropriately by a moderator. Who wants to moderate a slam section? Sounds like a mental asylum to me.
F #$%^&* age /I never saw the thread either //
how you doing?
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