update on the drowned fisherman - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

slow eddie · 11-16-2007, 06:00 PM

the forementioned fisherman drowned because his waders filled up. USE A BELT. REPEAT. USE A BELT. USE A PIECE OF ROPE. USE SOMETHING. john, i do not know where to put this post.thanks, ed

tattoobob · 11-16-2007, 10:17 PM

Also have a knife on your belt, you can always cut yourself out/or them off you

Vogt · 11-16-2007, 11:38 PM

Always use the belt. I almost got into a bad situation a few weeks back on a flat shallow beach. It was Hot day so I didnt have the belt or anything. There was a rock that I didnt know of,slipped on it, I went down onto my chest, water rushed in, I was able to use the butt of my rod to get back up, but I could have been in deep Sh**, in only 2 feet of water. SCAREY FEELING . use the belt

tynan19 · 11-17-2007, 08:05 AM

How do they know that is why he drowned? It is proven that you do not sink with waders on filled with water. Was he unable to swim to shore? Or did the added weight of the water tire him out till he was exhausted? Water in waders to me is not a reason why he drowned but one of many factors that lead to his death.

Mike P · 11-17-2007, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tynan19

How do they know that is why he drowned? It is proven that you do not sink with waders on filled with water. Was he unable to swim to shore? Or did the added weight of the water tire him out till he was exhausted? Water in waders to me is not a reason why he drowned but one of many factors that lead to his death.

I strongly suspect that he was stricken in some way--heart attack, maybe, or a stroke--and fell in. They should be doing an autopsy. They do in most cases of accidental death.

We know from other posts here that he was in his mid-50s and a smoker.

animal · 11-17-2007, 09:25 AM

I can't remember if he wore breathables,or neoprene,the breathables or old rubber waders could keep you down,couldn't they?

In The Surf · 11-17-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

I strongly suspect that he was stricken in some way--heart attack, maybe, or a stroke--and fell in. They should be doing an autopsy. They do in most cases of accidental death.

We know from other posts here that he was in his mid-50s and a smoker.

I doubt that was the case, the fisherman in the area who called for help (coast guard) heard the fallen fisherman calling for help and in distress. He was obviously struggling to save his own life. That wouldn't be the case if it were a heart attack or stroke.

luds · 11-17-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by In The Surf

I doubt that was the case, the fisherman in the area who called for help (coast guard) heard the fallen fisherman calling for help and in distress. He was obviously struggling to save his own life. That wouldn't be the case if it were a heart attack or stroke.

I feel bad for that guy as well. I'd have some sleepless nights after that experience.

piemma · 11-17-2007, 08:56 PM

So I have a real stupid question. There was another guy there who heard the drowning victim calling for help. he dialed 911. Why the hell didn't he go and help the guy?

tynan19 · 11-17-2007, 09:47 AM

Bob, they do not pull you down. They allow you to swim albiet not well. Getting out of the water is the problem. The weight of all that water prevents you from pulling yourself up.
Mike, the ME usually gets the body the next day but could take a while in publishing the results.

luds · 11-17-2007, 09:58 AM

A wading belt will only give you a few extra moments. wear a wetsuit when possible. bob's comment about a knife is a good one too.

animal · 11-17-2007, 09:59 AM

I realize they wont pull you down,however,they aren't bouyant like neoprenes,which even full,will stay up.A person who's not a strong swimmer in the first place,could have a real hard time trying to stay upright and on top,wearing rubber or breathables.

tattoobob · 11-17-2007, 11:20 AM

The Knife would be to cut holes to let the water out and not fill
also you could get out easier

it is more of a problem if you have wading boots but you could
cut the laces.

when the water is cold you don't have much of a chance maybe 2
minutes at most

wheresmy50 · 11-21-2007, 05:31 PM

I don't think he should have gone in after the guy. As has been said, it seems that more times than not the rescuer becomes a victim. A few years ago in Mass? a whole family went that way. Call 911, tell them where you last saw the guy when they show up. There's nothing else you should do.

We all know the risks, and none of us should expect someone else to risk their life to save us. To quote the Sopranos "It's the life we've chosen."

I'm not sure if you guys were kidding about trying to catch a drowning person, but it seems to me that the only thing worse than drowning is drowning with someone's 3.5oz pencil popper in your face.