Question for 44mike44.. - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

spinncognito · 03-03-2008, 03:05 PM

You have started several threads recently asking some basic questions. Here are some questions for you:

Are you finding the responses/answers helpful?

Have you learned anything from the responses/answers?

Do you feel better prepared to catch fish this season because you asked the questions?

One more:

Did you think by seeking answers here that you would have less to "learn" on the water?

Just curious...

spin

eelman · 03-03-2008, 03:54 PM

>>>>>>>>>

cardnial77 · 03-03-2008, 04:19 PM

wow lets just completely bash a new member, for asking a few questions. seems to be a bit of this going on lately. something people need to consider before the engage in this kind of basing is that. Forums like this rely on sponsor dollars to keep the server running. Why would someone want to sponsor a site where new members are being run off?

spinncognito · 03-03-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cardnial77

wow lets just completely bash a new member, for asking a few questions. seems to be a bit of this going on lately. something people need to consider before the engage in this kind of basing is that. Forums like this rely on sponsor dollars to keep the server running. Why would someone want to sponsor a site where new members are being run off?

I think when he finally answers the questions that you will see I was DEFENDING him, not bashing him.

cardnial77 · 03-03-2008, 04:29 PM

spin my post was not directed at you, but the trend tword which alot of questions from new members have been answered. isn't that the whole point of a discussion board; to learn new things and share your knowledge with others?

BassDawg · 03-03-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cardnial77

wow lets just completely bash a new member, for asking a few questions. seems to be a bit of this going on lately. something people need to consider before the engage in this kind of basing is that. Forums like this rely on sponsor dollars to keep the server running. Why would someone want to sponsor a site where new members are being run off?

Don't believe that any bashing is going on,

simply an effort to make the new member a bit more concise.
Is that so wrong

?

Also, in the vein of this thread.............

44mike, here is some suggested reading where you will find alot of helpful info, also.
In no particular order:

Striper Surf by Frank Daignault
On the Run by David DiBenedetto
Reading the Water by Robert Post
Fishing NE: A RI Shore Guide by "On the Water"
To Catch a Bass by Tim Coleman
Atlantic Surf Fishing by Lester Boyd
The Complete Book of Striped Bass Fishing by Woolner and Lyman
The Compleat Guide to Surfcasting by Ron Arra
The Art of Surfcasting with Lures by Zeno Hromin
Secrets of Surf Fishing at night by Doc Muller
The Surf Caster's Guide to the Striper Coast by DJ Muller
Baits, Rigs, and Tackle by Vic Dunaway

There are tons more, EXCELLENT reads out there.................

But these should be gooooood starter selections for your library
and Trophy Brain. these guys are the masters. Anything by "Crazy Al" Alberto Knie/Steve McKenna/Bill "#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&" Nolan/"DZ" Dennis Zambrotta, mostly articles (see the net), and Canalman edits a sweet weekly publication "The Fisherman". ALL of these sources will answer many of yer questions and fine tune your posts, once you've had the chance to do some "homework"

.

Questions are encouraged and answered in a variety of ways,
how else does one learn and are the wily veterans able to
keep it reel in here

?

The Dad Fisherman · 03-03-2008, 04:30 PM

Serenity Now, Gentlemen, Serenity Now

fishaholic18 · 03-03-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Serenity Now, Gentlemen, Serenity Now

A little Controversy is good...Keeps the blood flowing..

The Dad Fisherman · 03-03-2008, 04:40 PM

I prefer serenity.....keeps my blood pressure down

Mike P · 03-03-2008, 04:54 PM

Here's a great idea--let's have a website where any new member gets a load of cow%$%$%$%$ dumped on their heads for having the nerve to ask questions the greybeards think are stupid. Let's dump a barrel of crap on their heads every time they do it, and discourage other newbies from joining. That way we'll have this clubby place like an old time tackle shop, where a few select regulars sit around a potbellied stove, drink coffee, and joke with the owner in the off-season, and where every tourist who walks in gets a smart-assed answer when they're not being totally ignored.

Sounds like a great way to attract new blood and keep a site from turning stale, and eventually dying off.

Any of you old-timers been back to the old WMI board, where many of us first met, in the last 3-4 years, where you have 18 month old posts still on the first page, and half of them don't even have a reply?

If that's the kind of website y'all want, say it now, and John can pull the plug, save a %$%$%$%$load of money, and spend more time being a husband and father.

If you don't want to answer the %$%$%$%$ing question, or if stupid questions annoy the hell out of you, don't open the %$%$%$%$ing thread---how hard is that?

bart · 03-03-2008, 05:04 PM

great post!

piemma · 03-03-2008, 05:08 PM

The board is not in existance just for the "newbies" Mike. Some of the regulars like to read "good" stuff occasionally. Sorry for criticizing the quality of the questions. Perhaps you would prefer I don't have an opinion.

eelman · 03-03-2008, 05:11 PM

>>>>>>>>>>>

Done with this

Mike P · 03-03-2008, 05:17 PM

Paul, I am never going to tell anyone not to have an opinion. But, after 2-3 days of seeing a new member's posts, and knowing that he's asking elementary questions that hold no interest, why does anyone bother reading them and let the posts get to them? That's what I have a hard time understanding

As funny as it may sound, I don't read every new thread/subject that goes up, especially since we just doubled the number of moderators. And I certainly don't reply to every one I read. There are even people on other websites that made my "ignore" list--like that CnR guy on SOL--simply because I want to toss my computer out the window

when I open them.

44mike44 · 03-03-2008, 05:16 PM

im only new at the surf game to be honest im confident i would outfit most of you talking a big game on here when it comes to boat im just trying to learn a new aspect of fishing

fishbones · 03-03-2008, 05:21 PM

I'm happy to try to answer questions with my lousy opinions. I agree that having newbies makes the site fresh and in a lot of ways better. The more the merrier. I try to come on here and read new stuff and check out some of the cool plugs that guys build. I've learned a lot just by browsing different topics in here. But, it can be frustrating to come in here in the morning and see multiple posts from a new person wanting the answers to all of the questions that have been answered over and over in here. I guess what I'm saying is that moderation is good and most people won't jump down your throat if you ask one question at a time and take time to digest the responses. To use a surf fishing analogy, you wouldn't walk down to the water in your waders and splash in making all kinds of noise without checking the water to see if there are fish feeding in close. You'd probably approach slowly, take in the scene and slowly wade in before making your casts. Just my .02. Welcome to all of the newbies and enjoy the site.

piemma · 03-03-2008, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fishbones

I'm happy to try to answer questions with my lousy opinions. I agree that having newbies makes the site fresh and in a lot of ways better. The more the merrier. I try to come on here and read new stuff and check out some of the cool plugs that guys build. I've learned a lot just by browsing different topics in here. But, it can be frustrating to come in here in the morning and see multiple posts from a new person wanting the answers to all of the questions that have been answered over and over in here. I guess what I'm saying is that moderation is good and most people won't jump down your throat if you ask one question at a time and take time to digest the responses. To use a surf fishing analogy, you wouldn't walk down to the water in your waders and splash in making all kinds of noise without checking the water to see if there are fish feeding in close. You'd probably approach slowly, take in the scene and slowly wade in before making your casts. Just my .02. Welcome to all of the newbies and enjoy the site.

Great analogy

44mike44 · 03-03-2008, 05:37 PM

to defend my questions - its funny how you call them basic and all but when you actually read them theyre more opinion than anything. for example, what color pp? hmm do you personal have scientific evidence that proves you know the exact answer to that question? can the answers be found everywhere? obviously not because A: not everyone agreed. B: Theres a reason pp makes different colors. i was under the impression this is for discussion fishing related topics. if thats the case then maybe im not the one who needs the wake up call.

bart · 03-03-2008, 05:39 PM

trust me, its not you that needs a wake-up call

basswipe · 03-03-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 44mike44

to defend my questions - its funny how you call them basic and all but when you actually read them theyre more opinion than anything. for example, what color pp? hmm do you personal have scientific evidence that proves you know the exact answer to that question? can the answers be found everywhere? obviously not because A: not everyone agreed. B: Theres a reason pp makes different colors. i was under the impression this is for discussion fishing related topics. if thats the case then maybe im not the one who needs the wake up call.

Mike I'm not sure if you're response is directed at me.When I say "basic" I mean good solid commonsense questions that can have many different answers.I'm all for question asking whether its basic or not.

The Dad Fisherman · 03-03-2008, 05:42 PM

Mike, no need to defend your questions. you keep asking them. Those who want to will answer you and you will get the answers you are looking for.

Welcome aboard and enjoy...this is a great site with a lot of useful info.

44mike44 · 03-03-2008, 05:47 PM

no your ok piemma is another story

piemma · 03-03-2008, 05:53 PM

oh oh Mike's mad at Paulie!

44mike44 · 03-03-2008, 05:53 PM

yea i got an issue you with you buddy
you think you know it all? dont want to answer questions? get off the computer

Jenn · 03-03-2008, 07:02 PM

Mike 44

Its not the questions but that there are many here that feel they have answered the same type questions time and time again. Also we are a group of fishermen and women...ask 100 people their opinion and you will get 100 different answers.
Try the search feature and the topics are endless. Welcome to the site and try to take the crusty old salts with a grain of salt. Its winter and I think cabin fever is taking over.

basswipe · 03-04-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenn

Mike 44

Its not the questions but that there are many here that feel they have answered the same type questions time and time again. Also we are a group of fishermen and women...ask 100 people their opinion and you will get 100 different answers.

How's someone new supposed to know that?That's an insanely flawed answer.He doesn't know certain guys are "pros",how could he?He's NEW here!

To the rest...if the many "feel" they've answered the same question too many times......THEN DON'T RESPOND TO THE GODDAMN QUESTION!!!

44mike44 keep asking questions.Screw the "Stuffed Shirts"!

Jenn · 03-04-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by basswipe

How's someone new supposed to know that?That's an insanely flawed answer.He doesn't know certain guys are "pros",how could he?He's NEW here!

To the rest...if the many "feel" they've answered the same question too many times......THEN DON'T RESPOND TO THE GODDAMN QUESTION!!!

44mike44 keep asking questions.Screw the "Stuffed Shirts"!

Basswipe! I dont expect them to know!!

I apologize if my answer was misleading. After re-reading my entire post I see that how I meant it to sound and how it did sound are very different! C'mon now... why werent you reading my mind?
I certainly dont want to discourage ANYONE from asking questions if they have them. What I meant by my comment was that there ARE people that moan and groan about having to answer the "same questions" over and over...I was trying to make the point to 44Mike44 (and ALL newcomers) that these people do exist and complain and to take those people with a grain of salt. I whole heartedly agree that if you dont want to answer a newbie question than dont. Its that simple....there are plenty of others that will be glad to. As far as opinions go...it's true that you can ask 10 fishermen whats the best technique for spot X and you will get ten different answers!! Maybe even twelve or thirteen!!!

piemma · 03-03-2008, 07:04 PM

QUOTE=44mike44;570934]yea i got an issue you with you buddy
you think you know it all? dont want to answer questions? get off the computer[/QUOTE]

GattaFish · 03-04-2008, 06:09 PM

44Mike44

Don't worry it has been a long winter,,,,

Today your asking questions,,,,, Tomorrow you will be answering them for some more new guys,,,,

Welcome, Glad to have you.....

basswipe · 03-04-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GattaFish

44Mike44

Don't worry it has been a long winter,,,,

Today your asking questions,,,,, Tomorrow you will be answering them for some more new guys,,,,

Welcome, Glad to have you.....

YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

GattaFish for President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!