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07-02-2008, 07:46 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Stupid Beer Selling Gimmicks!!!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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07-02-2008, 07:50 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Oh! One More Complaint!
What self respecting beer drinker would ever buy beer in plastic bottles???? Anyone out there buy and drink your beer from plastic bottles??? Plastic does not retain cold and the flavor of the beer is ruined!!! I would not buy or drink a beer from plastic if it were the last beer ever made and it was the hottest summer day in a million years!!!! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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07-02-2008, 08:12 AM
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Registered User
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any "flavored" beer 
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07-02-2008, 11:55 AM
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Registered User
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Location: in a structure with a roof
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
What self respecting beer drinker would ever buy beer in plastic bottles???? Anyone out there buy and drink your beer from plastic bottles??? Plastic does not retain cold and the flavor of the beer is ruined!!! I would not buy or drink a beer from plastic if it were the last beer ever made and it was the hottest summer day in a million years!!!! 
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glass bottles are the only way to go . when you remove the tab on a beer can that will ease flow but a vent is a selling point . fish have vents does that make them swim better . I have a vent that makes me fart better . LOL
Its all stupid crap . what the hell is cold enough ? for who ? beer is beer . except when wine or whiskey is added to beer .
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07-27-2008, 06:49 PM
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Eels
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cape Cod,MA.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
I would not buy or drink a beer from plastic if it were the last beer ever made and it was the hottest summer day in a million years!!!! 
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Larry have you been to a Pat's game in the last few years 
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Live bait sharp hooks and timing is all you need
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07-02-2008, 09:21 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Easton, MA
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I'm with you Larry. I thought the plastic bottles were made for stadiums so if they were thrown, the risk of injuring someone was reduced. What's wrong with pouring a glass bottle or can into a plastic cup? Or just having draft beer? As for the "vented" cans, I haven't even seen them. I'd drink a wine cooler before I'd drink a Coors Light. Also, all these new micro brews are gettign out of hand. I like Sam Adams, Magic Hat, Sierra Nevada and a lot of the other ones, but now there are too many to choose from. And they are outrageously priced. I had to pick up a bottle of wine for someone the other day and grabbed a 6 pack of "Sweaty Betty" blonde ale on the recommendation of the store owner. It cost 12 freakin bucks! I felt like a fool paying that much for a 6 pack. Next time I'm grabbing the 12 pack of Narragansett Ale for $10 and going home with my dignity intact.
On a side note, I was actually considering getting one of those mini kegerators for my bar. But it seems that the only kegs that can be used are Heineken and Heineken light. Anyone know if this is the case?
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07-02-2008, 11:10 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Coors Beer, less gas in tummy, more room for alcohol. 
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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07-02-2008, 01:00 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbones
Next time I'm grabbing the 12 pack of Narragansett Ale for $10 and going home with my dignity intact.
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Gansett??
You may leave the store with your dignity intact (assuming you carry it out in a brown paper bag so no one sees it) but you won't get through the next morning with your bowels intact
"Our own New England Whale Piss"--and it isn't even brewed in New England any more.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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07-02-2008, 01:06 PM
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xxx
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
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who needs a vent, I just use a funnel
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"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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07-02-2008, 01:09 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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I always thought that was why we poked a hole in the bottom of the can??? 
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07-02-2008, 01:16 PM
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xxx
Join Date: Oct 2003
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"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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07-02-2008, 01:53 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
Gansett??
You may leave the store with your dignity intact (assuming you carry it out in a brown paper bag so no one sees it) but you won't get through the next morning with your bowels intact
"Our own New England Whale Piss"--and it isn't even brewed in New England any more.
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I should have been more clear. I like the bock, not the ale. The Gansett Bock is a very good beer and I haven't been sick from it yet. And I think it is made in RI, not NY like the ales. But what do I know about beer? I still keep PBR's in my fridge in the workshop.
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07-02-2008, 01:46 PM
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The one that got away
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: K'Port, ME/Westford, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishbones
I'm with you Larry. I thought the plastic bottles were made for stadiums so if they were thrown, the risk of injuring someone was reduced. What's wrong with pouring a glass bottle or can into a plastic cup? Or just having draft beer? As for the "vented" cans, I haven't even seen them. I'd drink a wine cooler before I'd drink a Coors Light. Also, all these new micro brews are gettign out of hand. I like Sam Adams, Magic Hat, Sierra Nevada and a lot of the other ones, but now there are too many to choose from. And they are outrageously priced. I had to pick up a bottle of wine for someone the other day and grabbed a 6 pack of "Sweaty Betty" blonde ale on the recommendation of the store owner. It cost 12 freakin bucks! I felt like a fool paying that much for a 6 pack. Next time I'm grabbing the 12 pack of Narragansett Ale for $10 and going home with my dignity intact.
On a side note, I was actually considering getting one of those mini kegerators for my bar. But it seems that the only kegs that can be used are Heineken and Heineken light. Anyone know if this is the case?
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Many of those microbrews are not microbrews at all. It's a new way of branding the beer. Large companies are realizing that good beer is where all the money is, so theyre making new brands look like microbrews. For example Killians is a coors product. And this one company Ben E Keith Beverages, specializes in making "microbrews" such as blue moon look like microbrews when in fact they are mass produced.
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...x#pageTopAchor
So next time you think youre drinking a "Microbrew" you may want to check again.
As for the minikegs, yet another gimmick. Buy a real kegorator, or make one out of an old fridge, you'll be thankfull that hineken isnt the only thing you can drink ou of it
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Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
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07-02-2008, 02:06 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Easton, MA
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[QUOTE=hulkyj61As for the minikegs, yet another gimmick. Buy a real kegorator, or make one out of an old fridge, you'll be thankfull that hineken isnt the only thing you can drink ou of it[/QUOTE]
I don't have the room for a full size one, and I don't drink enough for the big kegs to be worthwhile. I have a fridge in my basement workshop which is usually stocked with a nice assortment, but the mini keg on the bar seemed like a nice idea for the card games, etc...
I'll just have to make due with the fridge.
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07-02-2008, 04:17 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Here and There Seasonally
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The first Coors can I ever saw had a vent in the top. Early 80s. My brother Jim and one of his Navy buds brought 2 cases from Colorado while on leave.
I don't think anyone will sober up for lack of gimmicks...
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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07-02-2008, 04:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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Remember the Budweiser ad a few years back that had a guy in a minimart discover that he doesn't have enough money for a six pack or toilet paper? That was a big hit with the "crap-my-pants" crowd.
On average, the beer companies waste millions each year on insulting ads that are not funny and give positive proof that using their product will make you an idiot. Think about car ads where the find print ALWAYS says something like:"filmed on a closed course by professional drivers, do not attempt."
The art of intelligently and comically attracting customers has gone bye-bye. Now they want to "dunb us down" to their level. Well, not this guy, no how, no way! Like the saying goes: "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and smells like a duck....it's a duck!"
Most ads get my BS alarm chiming like a church bell on Sunday!
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07-02-2008, 11:41 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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I didn't think it was possible Larry....but your complaining about BEER....I can't, in good concience, join in on this. Goes against my very fiber.
as Ben Franklin once said....
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy"
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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07-02-2008, 11:49 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Kevin...re-read the thread....its not about the beer....its about the packaging gimmicks! Beer good-bull%$%$%$%$ bad! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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07-02-2008, 11:57 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Hyde Park, MA
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I always thought, much with fine wines and spirits, that the older they are, the better they will taste. SO with this "born on dating" gimmick, you're telling me that 1.) beer does not get better with age, or 2.) ONLY BUDWEISER turns to crap if not drunk within a specific time frame? Does this prove (to me, that is) that Bud is pure crap? Maybe so. I'd rather drink toilet water than ANY Bud beer.
I prefer Rolling Rock, Coors, Sam Adams IPA, Smithwicks, or Guiness.
All the sales gimmicks are geared towards one goal: get people to drink more beer as quickly as possible. Why don't they work on improving the quality of the ACTUAL BEER?
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07-02-2008, 12:07 PM
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Registered User
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Location: RI
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Most beer doesn't get better with age, although there are some exceptions with the bigger higher alcohol beers. Bottled beer will react slowly with light and CO2 can leak out over time. So while the beer might not "expire" on a certain date, after a period of time, perhaps 6-12 months the quality will likely diminish.
With wine it's a bit different. Many wines are stored by the producer and sold around the time they're best for drinking. Some special (and often bigger and expensive) wines will get better as they get older, but only to a point. Each wine will have it's own zone where the drinking will be ideal. Opening up a very old bottle can be quite an experiment unless it's a known vintage. The chance for spoilage also goes up over time.
-spence
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07-02-2008, 12:26 PM
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Super Moderator
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You can take a can of Bud and bury it in the back yard, then dig it up in 10 years and drink it and it will be fine with all the preservatives in it. The Born on date just plays on peoples paranoia and makes them throw away perfectly good beer and go buy more because they think because its 6 months old its "Bad"
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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07-02-2008, 05:34 PM
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Registered User
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Location: South Shore MA
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Piels and Blacklabel tall boys for me. Need to save money for smokes.
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07-03-2008, 08:32 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Cumberland,RI
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Most beer is best about 1 month old. You want freshness in beer , like fresh bread.
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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07-03-2008, 08:38 AM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Georgetown MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltheart
Most beer is best about 1 month old. You want freshness in beer , like fresh bread.
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True for most of the good beers...but for the american mass produced stuff, I've never see a difference with age. When it comes to real beer I'm more of a Hop head....I favor the IPA's and ESB's, which I prefer a little colder than cellar temp, but a stout on a cold winter night is always a hit
you know what they say about American beer....Its like Making love in a Canoe.
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07-26-2008, 06:25 PM
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...and in person!
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Scituate MA
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
you know what they say about American beer....Its like Making love in a Canoe.
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... F-ing Damn Close to Water!!
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07-02-2008, 02:02 PM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Georgetown MA
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Originally Posted by Karl F
thank sam adams for the beer dating thing... they played it to the masses and all followed... and they are the worst at picking up and giving credit for out of code... guess who is the best... A-B
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Sam's needs to though, no preservatives and it will go bad after a few months.
you do have to thank Sam Adams though, they were instrumental in putting flavor back in beer.
gone are the days where every can of beer pretty much tasted the same..some skunkier than others...but the same. there is now some variety out there.
I can guarantee my Dad's generation didn't know what a Weisse beer or an IPA were. Or a Porter or a Stout.
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