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07-09-2008, 03:12 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Live Pogie Fishing
Is like cheating  ...... best way to cull the bigguns out of the crowd. Pogies are around in force. And the fishing has been good up this way. Makes it worth getting up at 0400.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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07-09-2008, 03:23 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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Ive fished the keys for cuda and tarpon, pike in NY, largmouths all over CT, NH, VT, fished sharks in FL, yet.....
Live bunker for bass is the most exciting and fun fishing experience I have ever had. I can do it every day and never get bored!
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07-09-2008, 03:33 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Live Bait from a Boat is EASY
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07-09-2008, 03:40 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rowley
Posts: 3,781
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cheating? don't say that to #^^^^^^&! just kidding!
you boat guys have all the fun..... 
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07-10-2008, 05:16 AM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockport24
cheating? don't say that to #^^^^^^&! just kidding!
you boat guys have all the fun..... 
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Cut the tail off so the pogie can't out run the bass...Now thats cheating...  
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07-10-2008, 07:33 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,692
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My biggest beef with it is that some guys dont go through the effort to transfer the pogie from the snag hook to a large circle hook or some other 'friendly' hook that inst going to disembowel the bass when it swallows the bait.. At that point its no better than yo-yoing..
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07-10-2008, 02:09 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Back to our regular scheduled programming. Keep it civil please. Zero flames. Thank you
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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07-09-2008, 03:49 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,203
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Ross......you're killing me.
I'm beginning to forget what a striper looks like
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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07-09-2008, 04:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 132
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this is my first year ever getting a chance at fishing with pogies and i definetley agree that watching a big bass chase your bait to the top and after it while it trys to get away is the most exciting fishing ive ever done big bait + big fish = big fun
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07-09-2008, 04:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 4,716
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yes it is cheating and it doesn't count, so stop fishing them
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07-09-2008, 04:46 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Wait till PETA finds out and takes on defense of pogies
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07-10-2008, 02:36 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Jim;
I think to some extent you are right; but a lot of other harbors up and down the coast (CT, and Ma are seeing similar events)
As always in this topic
I say 1fish 36"
end of story.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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07-10-2008, 03:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,692
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back then there may have been say 2 thousand guys keeping 2o bass a day.. now there are 20 thousand people keeping 2 a day. you cant ccompare then to now.. its all skewed.
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07-10-2008, 03:40 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rowley
Posts: 3,781
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yeah thats a good point Nebe, but I still think what's going on in the bay down there isn't neccesarily happending everywhere and it sure as hell ain't happending from the surf up and down the coast (just read the reports in the fisherman) Athough some here are saying it is happending everywhere, so who knows!
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07-10-2008, 05:06 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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I don't think it is that bad. Is it good? I don't know. But I do know that for a while we were all claiming how malnourished these fish were because there were no bunker around (the supposed super meal for a bass) and not there are considerably more fat and happy bass out there eating fat and unhappy menhaden And there are a lot more of those bass getting fat and happy then getting caught in Providence. I don't think that a season in Narragansett Bay holds a candle to one big net boat in the drop at the inlets off the Outer Banks or one week in the Great South Channel.
It sucks for us shore fishers that the bass aren't hanging out along our beloved rocky shores but it is good for 95% of the bass that feed up on a summers worth of bunker and elude the bunker chunker in the bay. I don't think it is a slaughter of epic proportions going on. I really don't think that 20 thousand (or 1 thousand for that matter) people are keeping two a day.
The biggest problem is that the shore fishing sucks, however I really like the fact that the bass are feeding well.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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07-10-2008, 05:13 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
The biggest problem is that the shore fishing sucks, however I really like the fact that the bass are feeding well.
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So get your Seacraft in! Seriously, is that project still moving forward? Or taking a summer hiatus?
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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07-10-2008, 05:14 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Whether the situation is exaggerated by the presence of pogies or not.
I look at charts like these as scary.
1fish
36"
Couple that with certain recent year classes hit hard with Mycobacteriosis, and I am worried... FWIW, the 1996 year class would be ~38-39" now, and the 2001 year class is ~28-30"...
1fish
36"
There was no rec data available from before 1982; I dont think it is nearly as high as today....
1fish
36"
I didn't live through the before years, but I remember the mid-late 80's as a kid well. Bluefish were the main game in town....
1fish
36"
I can live with a few slow seasons in local surf due to a shift in bait patterns. I am worried about 5 years from now....
1fish
36"
Dont forget to add the ~8% release mortality to the the landings.....
Last edited by RIROCKHOUND; 07-10-2008 at 05:28 PM..
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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07-09-2008, 04:53 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 23
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I love live lining just like eeling etc. I was out last night and they wanted no part of the pogies at all There was alot of other bait in the water non of which I had. There were fish breaking surfeace and lots on the bottom with the other bait. So I will tell you there are times when they are so full they just pick at the little stuff. If it is cheating I guess I am cheating but I do not know what I am cheating at as I was out fish with live bait so I did not cheat myself.  
Dr3
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07-09-2008, 07:27 PM
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stuck in a desert :(
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Im a little lost right now
Posts: 243
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I like live lining pogies from shore snag em' up and cast them out. If that doesnt work just snag them and bring them somewhere else. As far as keeping the smaller fish away im not sure about that as I have had a few schoolies on live pogies, some as small as 25".
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07-09-2008, 07:45 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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it reminds me of livelining herring but more exciting because lots of times you see the hits on top. It's the same rush and same addiction as herring, but now we are lucky to have pogies around once again, soon the herring will make a comeback and we'll be going mental again over them too. One big difference though is the time of year, herring is pretty much a spring thing, and pogies go all season
I prefer jigs and plugs but it is a blast having your bait nailed and a freight train takes off line from your reel.
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07-09-2008, 07:59 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
those poor pogies
THROW WOOD save the pogies 
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If the seals find'em or FW open up the inshore fishery, we'll only have wood to throw.
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07-09-2008, 08:13 PM
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Seal Control
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Caver, Ma.
Posts: 3,875
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I use live Scup, they great also, and easier to get , and are there all the time for the bass. 
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07-09-2008, 08:16 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Quote:
Originally Posted by macojoe
I use live Scup, they great also, and easier to get , and are there all the time for the bass. 
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And if you don't catch a bass you can eat the scup!!
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07-09-2008, 09:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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What's a pogie ???

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LETS GO BRANDON
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07-10-2008, 05:59 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,426
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This link has the explanation of how it is done.
Simple explanation is they net in the same places every year and quantify the results (sort of like keeping a fishing log) After a while you can see the trends.
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...dex/index.html
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07-10-2008, 07:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Between the thighs
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Where'd the bloody ell did my post go? state the truth and get  
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07-10-2008, 09:56 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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I agree with 1 at 36. However, I hate to see anyone( including #^^^^^^&) get skewered for taking the legal limit. I don't care if it's for fertilizer.
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07-11-2008, 05:47 AM
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Steve "Van Staal"
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cranston
Posts: 544
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Dar3 is correct. Boat fishing for bass with bunker is not as easy as every one thinks. Some are better than others. Billy is an outstanding bass fisherman who does decidely better than most whether he is in a boat or the surf. In a boat he does well with eels after dark when he goes, but why bother because he does so well during the day.
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07-11-2008, 06:19 AM
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Steve "Van Staal"
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cranston
Posts: 544
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By the way, live eels after dark , surf or boat, is effective as bunker just not as visual. Nobody complains about live eelers.
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07-11-2008, 07:12 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I don't care if it's for fertilizer.
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You really don't care about the fishery do you?

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