Truck Enthusiasts - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Jenn · 11-08-2002, 12:38 PM

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...but the Toyota keeps whispering to me while I'm asleep...

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110% Happy with the Yota. Had american since day one and hate to say it but the Japs have this car thing nailed. Truck is great, cheap on gas, lots of power for a 4 cylinder, and repair parts are cheap. I haven't had to fix anything on it as of yet,

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if ya want a real Truck, (fast,powerfull,and good-lookin,,Concider a Dodge Ram, Seriously lil' more $$ but will last you over twice as long ---But that's just coming from a kid who seen toyotas an Nissans have to get pulled out of oakland beach ramp by dodge rams )

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BLOO>>>>translation of the pic.....means Toyota VERY SEXY (V.S) =over=nissan

Jenn · 11-08-2002, 09:20 PM

SSX...I dont want to sound nasty or anything.....but I question how you can compare $$ on a V8 ram to a V6 yota??? And as for lasting twice as long??? I seriously beg to differ....I know a lot of people who have toyotas and dodges and the toyota owners are FAR happier with their vehicles and drive them many more miles with far fewer problems to fix......maybe I live in a cocoon of coincidence......but I doubt it.....

I will agree that you might not want to tow a 27 foot camper or something like that with them....but then again thats not what the are built for.....for what we tow....our toyota is all we need!!! and let me tell you it goes like a ba@&%*rd in the sand!!!! I have driven quite a variety of vehicles in the sand and the 4 runner is...in my opinion the best yet!!

.....well I could keep beating the issue to death....so I guess to each his (or her) own......but for me (and my hubby) we will stand by out toyota !!!

Jenn · 11-14-2002, 12:35 PM

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"...I think I'm turning Japanese...oh yes I'm turning Japanese....at least I think so..."

Jenn · 11-14-2002, 10:57 PM

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they sell more, yeah, cuz they are a cheap truck,,, there V8 tundra would never beat a ram or chevy,, not even a ford

Apparently you havent been shopping lately.....if they are selling them cheap where you are I would like to know about it please....

JohnR · 11-07-2002, 12:08 PM

Having worked for both, I would say the Toyota. Just a little more solid than the Nissan and with a slightly better resale (costs a couple more up front though).

First - determine what you hope & plan to do a couple years down the road - like towing a boat.

Also determine if the little truck is big enough for you. I had a Toy V-6 5spd in the late 80's and it was a great truck. However, it was only half the truck that my 98 F-150 was...

JohnR · 11-09-2002, 04:32 PM

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You don't need to drive to know quality

No, you're right, you don't need to drive to know quality, however, you do need to drive (and usually for several years in various vehicles) to know quality in vehicles. Do you know what a HEMI is?
How do you qualify your ability to jusdge quality trucks? I can understand that if pops says that his 2003 Ram is his best truck ever but that's the only way I can see it. Even if he had a 2002 older style, that truck is lower in quality and longer in the tooth than either the Ford or the Chevy. Now Dodge's new 4.7 MagnumForceFeedbackCaddilacGive-A-Dog-a-Bone motor is probably all nice - but is it proven? Err, nope - that's a new motor. And if it's twice as good as their last major transaxle release of the early 90s, that means only 25% of them will crap out on ya...

So not trying to crunch stones on ya but I think there are a few people slightly more automotively inclined than you (even if I wussed out on changing my clutch on the Nissan today).

Bloo - I'm still a fan of the Yota for a 'lil truck... I'll be looking soon at the bigguns though and I'm still not sure if the Yota is up to that task as I'm thinking 2500, F250, yada, yada, yada

JohnR · 11-13-2002, 12:19 PM

You own a RAM? How fast have you gone with it? How does it handle on sand? What is the best air down for it?

I'm going back to the early 90s because that's when I used to work in the SERVICE Departments for GM, Jeep (aka Chrysler), and 'Yota.

"So not trying to crunch stones on ya but I think there are a few people slightly more automotively inclined than you"
*More then my Uncle to ? Hmmm, i dunno about that one... (jk)
Well - i don't know about your Uncle (is he a mekinic?) but I'll go out on a limb and say I know a little more about them than you. Now I'm far from an automotive expert but I have done some involved things that I'm willing to bet are a bit further down the automotive pipeline than reading Car&Driver or Kit Cart magazine. Tops on the list was a 4cyl to a modded 6cyl Fiero Conversion. I didn't have the coin to do the V8

BTW - a "Hemi" is a hemispherical combustion chamber design. It's intention is to swirl the air/fuel for a better burn. And Dodge is not the only manufacturer to use a hemispherical chamber design.

In the near future, I hope to be getting a new Full Size 4x4 truck. I will weigh the 4 big boys (well 3.5, the Tundra is still borderline big in my eyes

). I'll be basing my decision on experience, research, and a little seat-O-da-pants driving. Too bad they won't let ya test with a cooler rack on, wink-wink/nudge-nudge...

JohnR · 11-13-2002, 02:03 PM

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And most truck/SUV owners go off-road as often as mountain goats come into town for a double cappuchino !!!!!!

Off course - we surf anglers DO spend a fair amount of time with trucks on the beach...

Personally, I've driven the previous generation RAM pickup and it did not hold a candle to my '98 F-150. Sure, it was pretty different back in 94 when it came out but it was old in 98 and REAL old in 2001. GM redid there trucks nicely in 2K, Toyota grew up then too. The new Dodges look nice and if I feel comfortable that their QC has gone up, I'll consider them.

So 'll look at the big Three .5 and make a decision. The Ford is the subjective leader becuase mine was the BEST vehicle I've ever owned (and I've had tons new & used) and it's currently the best priced truck - it's also the oldest generation of the current trucks and closest to a redesign (ala Expedition). OTH - the Dodge ain't been out all that long and needs to be proven a bit.

Just my humble, quais-expereinced, based honest opinion

JohnR · 11-14-2002, 08:54 AM

Untweakable

SnS - not to beat a dead horse here (and in case you are not aware, that is an expression). But how many trucks have you driven? What general knowledge do you have with trucks do you have? And how do you figure Dodge beat Chevy & Toyota until after 98? Just curious how you managed to come up with this opinion...

I remember when I was 16/17 and my friends and I had the classic camaro -v- mustang debates going on, which was faster, which had more power, yadayadayada.... Sad thing was (or great depending on one's viewpoint

), we were all in Germany at the time dealing with beat up Benzes & Porsches on the Autobahn... The mustang was the best thing since sliced bread in my mind - but I was driving a Camaro before a 'Stang

(Today on the new ones - no question it's the Stang. 2 Reasons, the newer Mustangs like the Bullit & Cobra are pretty sweet. Reason #2, GM dropped the F Bodies

JohnR · 11-14-2002, 01:42 PM

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"...I think I'm turning Japanese...oh yes I'm turning Japanese....at least I think so..."

Yeh - thanks

Het Rob - sorry about the F-Body's - I did toy with the idea of getting a SLP 'Bird 10 years ago...

JohnR · 11-15-2002, 09:05 AM

Ich habe drei jahre ins Stuttgart Gewohnt - von drei und achtzig bis sechs und achtsig. Ich war fraulein ins gasthausen mittrinken und fahrnen den autobahn (aber naturlich nicht gleichzeitig) bevor sie beiden haben geboren. Meine auslandsaufenthalt war ausgesigchtnet.

Ich war halbes flussig auf Deutch, aber jetz geb mir so viel vergessen

Did you understand that?

JohnR · 11-15-2002, 09:57 AM

Ahh naturlich, Herr Kepler. Veileicht diesen kinderfischer verstehen koennen. Ach! Oxenscheize...

Actually - I've forgotten so much I couldn't converse with a 2 year old...

JohnR · 11-15-2002, 11:25 AM

I got to der, die, & das but kept forgetting which en, er, and es to pluralize them - tharn the friekin vortshatz went out the window....

Den hund is los in dem Bundespost....

JohnR · 11-15-2002, 08:37 PM

ALLES FERTIG!! KAPUT!! ASHLOCHEN

JohnR · 11-18-2002, 04:36 PM

Hehehe - like I said - I stopped using German about when you were born

... And as I said - today I couldn't speak German with a 2 year old

Octoberfest in Newport is OK, Oktoberfest in Muenchen was much better but my favorite was Bad Canstadter Fest in Stuttgart - it was the second largest fest at the time but it was also only 15-20 minutes from my high school - Noch ein mal, bitte

Wo hast du dein Deutsch gelernt?
Because.
Was du da geschrieben hast macht ganz und gar keinen Sinn

Ich habe zwei jarhre Deutsch in Amerikanische gymnasium gelernt... Ich weise meine vortshatz is sehr schlecht und meine gramatik ist knein besser als meine vortschatz. Macht nichts.

Was du geschrieben hast macht teilweise Sinn

Makes no sense

? Sad thing is that my buddies from Germany (mostly americans) would probably understand it as their german has degenerated to the same point after all of these years. My conversational German is a tick or two better than my schreibed - but not too much

- Pidgeon Deutsch we call it now.

Understand That?? didn't think i was that advanced, huh? Because you asked me if i understood, well 'sarcasticly' ,, I'll admit - you've mildly impressed me there... Let me know when you try Gluewein on a cold Volksmarch - of course when you are old enough.

Hmmm,, why where you in germany for 3 years ? My father worked for the DOD for 25 or so years and did a tour with NCEUR from 83-86. I'd tell you more but then I'd need to kill ya ... It was a 3 yr rotation and we were out of Patch Barracks, HQEUCOM (where so few have been led by so many), from 83-86. I graduated from Patch American High at Patch Barracks in Vaihingen. Funny thing was that after 3 years in Germany, he could only say "Ein mal, bitte" and "Zahlen, bitte" and contrary to popular belief "Ausfahrt" is not a massive city on the autobahn....

You have fire drills in HS, we had bomb scares back then as well as legitimate terrorist threats, but still, I wouldn't trade it for the world.

JohnR · 11-19-2002, 08:42 PM

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John, when are you re-instating Patrick? At least he was interesting

Dunno - it's been over a year, but did I say a year and a half, hehehehe

Clammer · 11-07-2002, 11:14 AM

Bloo Toyota The only way to go
I,ve had four and they have all been great
oil changes & tires is about it== brakes
the 85 the body rotted , and a couple of clutches, but that was my fault of towing a boat too big for the 4 cyl/////////
I don,t even look at others /when its time I go get one
If I went back to towing alot /then I would consider the tundra,but at the time the dollars didn,t add up
I now have a 2000 tacoma 6cyl ,auto--==to date just grease & oil and I drive hard & its great on the beach !!!!!!

Good luck////////////////

redcrbbr · 11-08-2002, 08:31 PM

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She beeped my horn and flashed my lights though.

sorry i must have a dirty mind

redcrbbr · 11-19-2002, 02:31 PM

go for the toyota bloo. i sent ya a pm on who to see.

Tattoo · 11-07-2002, 10:37 AM

Bloo,

110% Happy with the Yota. Had american since day one and hate to say it but the Japs have this car thing nailed. Truck is great, cheap on gas, lots of power for a 4 cylinder, and repair parts are cheap. I haven't had to fix anything on it as of yet, but I looked into how much parts are that need replacement before I bought it. (rotors, drums, radiator etc etc).

One thing I would have bought is the xtra cab model. It gets abit tight in the cab with all the fishing gear on moving from spot to spot - as you know.

Oh and the Yotas hold there resale value better than the Nissan. I could sell my Yota now for what I payed for it, and its a 97.

Mr. Sandman · 11-07-2002, 11:28 AM

My vote is for the toyota. reliable and great reasale. Those are light duty vehicles ...don't get in an accident or tow much of a boat.

Mr. Sandman · 11-08-2002, 06:51 PM

mrmacey, Thats funny, I asked my onstar gal .." where are the big stripers feeding on the vineyard?" her respose was uh..I really don't know I am up here in Ottawa.
Also I asked her if she could remotely open the squibnocket gate near Jackie O's house so I could take my vehicle to a good surf spot...no luck there either.
She beeped my horn and flashed my lights though.

Krispy · 11-07-2002, 04:23 PM

I went thru this last year, and ended up getting the Frontier. I am very happy w/ it. It has the same reliability as the Toys, but youll spend some 3-5k more for their rep. Quality is = in my opinion. Brother-in-law has the 4dr 2002 supercharged version, and it rocks!
Go test drive em...

Krispy · 11-07-2002, 04:43 PM

You dont drive

Krispy · 11-15-2002, 09:32 AM

I did

Krispy · 11-15-2002, 10:27 AM

I can read it, I can speak it, but I write it like a drunk frenchman

Ah, the delicate nuances of the German language

I never got past der, die, das

Krispy · 11-15-2002, 10:29 AM

Ich hoffe das der oxensheize ist nicht in deiner hosen

Krispy · 11-19-2002, 04:51 PM

John, when are you re-instating Patrick? At least he was interesting

bloocrab · 11-07-2002, 10:18 AM

I need some opinions...

Basically..<<$$$>> it's a tight race -

...I've owned both Toyotas & Nissans, but not trucks -

....any pluss' or minuss' I should be aware of ???

Thanks~

bloocrab · 11-07-2002, 06:30 PM

Krispy...

On a sad note, I did drive a Frontier <<Supercharged>> too!!

It did run Great!!!...however, when we got back to the lot......

The engine was making a loud whining noise..

...the salesman was a bit ... speechless!! I had just told him that I wanted to drive his Nissan over to the Toyota lot to compare appearances...and he was excited about it...........until we heard the engine noise...

I'm not holding that against Nissans, I know these things sometimes happen...I'm just wondering if it was a sign from God...telling me His opinion...

John, as far as boat towing...I don't plan on owning something too big....too soon

...I still got that 24' hole in Wesport that I've been using as a piggy bank...and I ain't towing her anywhere till she's fixed!!!

I'm definately going with a V6 - <<V8 drinks too much>>

I'm a little stuck on the Nissan look

...but the Toyota keeps whispering to me while I'm asleep...

thanks for the replys gang...keep em' coming....I'm still not sure