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03-15-2009, 02:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yarmouth, MA
Posts: 23
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Striper Cup
Looked at the OTW site today, says its comming soon. Now that im settled down here on the cape, this summer should be full of fishing. Probably be hitting the beaches on the way to work in the morning....Can't wait....getting itchy....at least there still is turkey season  So whats your plan for the 2009 Striper Cup
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03-15-2009, 06:01 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Hmm - dunno. Anyone think we should put a team together this year?  
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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03-15-2009, 06:13 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Maybe we should have 2 teams.
S-B Liberals
S-B Conservatives
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03-17-2009, 09:07 AM
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#4
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 352
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Quote:
Originally Posted by striperman36
Maybe we should have 2 teams.
S-B Liberals
S-B Conservatives
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not fair!
-liberals are gonna get to add 1/3 of our weight to their fish (asset reallocation) and since they're all on welfare they can fish more while were funding them.
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"never met a bluefish i wouldn't sell"
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03-15-2009, 06:25 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Hmm - dunno. Anyone think we should put a team together this year?  
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I'm out
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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03-15-2009, 06:32 PM
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yarmouth, MA
Posts: 23
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John, I'd be down if there was a team striped-bass.com again this year...but then again it all depends on how many people want to be on it i guess. 
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03-15-2009, 08:58 PM
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#7
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$$
Join Date: May 2007
Location: East Taunton
Posts: 658
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I'm in
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Somebody just back of you while you are fishing is as bad as someone looking over your shoulder while you write a letter to your girl. ~Ernest Hemingway
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03-15-2009, 09:31 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Liberal or Conservative.
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03-16-2009, 12:02 PM
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My brother is bald
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 4,516
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There is no surf division this year???
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seals + plovers =
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03-16-2009, 12:32 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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Haven't heard anything or any changes from OTW this year.
I know I would like to see a LOWER maximum amount of fish that can be entered (even though in reality most people re not entering anywhere near the max amount of fish) to reduce impact of the tourney.
Maybe we as a team should better track what our top 10 are so we know on a near daily basis what fish make no sense keeping in regards to the tournament. We did OK last year but can probably tweak a bit for the better.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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03-16-2009, 12:49 PM
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#11
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Pembroke,MA
Posts: 784
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Haven't heard anything or any changes from OTW this year.
I know I would like to see a LOWER maximum amount of fish that can be entered (even though in reality most people re not entering anywhere near the max amount of fish) to reduce impact of the tourney.
Maybe we as a team should better track what our top 10 are so we know on a near daily basis what fish make no sense keeping in regards to the tournament. We did OK last year but can probably tweak a bit for the better.
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On that note I would love to see them bump up the minimum size of fish to 40" or more for the adult division. Fish smaller than this size have no impact on cup points or weekly winners. But for the kids the 36" size allows them a much better chance at weighing in a fish.
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03-16-2009, 01:04 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: East Taunton
Posts: 658
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Haven't heard anything or any changes from OTW this year.
I know I would like to see a LOWER maximum amount of fish that can be entered (even though in reality most people re not entering anywhere near the max amount of fish) to reduce impact of the tourney.
Maybe we as a team should better track what our top 10 are so we know on a near daily basis what fish make no sense keeping in regards to the tournament. We did OK last year but can probably tweak a bit for the better.
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Can you make a locked forum for team members to touch base??
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Somebody just back of you while you are fishing is as bad as someone looking over your shoulder while you write a letter to your girl. ~Ernest Hemingway
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03-16-2009, 05:45 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yarmouth, MA
Posts: 23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Haven't heard anything or any changes from OTW this year.
I know I would like to see a LOWER maximum amount of fish that can be entered (even though in reality most people re not entering anywhere near the max amount of fish) to reduce impact of the tourney.
Maybe we as a team should better track what our top 10 are so we know on a near daily basis what fish make no sense keeping in regards to the tournament. We did OK last year but can probably tweak a bit for the better.
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I'm with you john, and i agree with the forum for the team...it would provide for real time tracking...it wouldn't be worth keeping a questionable fish if you know that its obvious that the top 10 are grabbing ones that are bigger
J
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03-16-2009, 12:40 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,203
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There is a Surf Division....There just isn't a Surf TEAM Division.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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03-16-2009, 01:14 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
There is a Surf Division....There just isn't a Surf TEAM Division.
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absolutely RIGHT, TDF!
i think that you know what i meant.
and THANKS for your clarification,,,,,,,,,,,
since OTW won't give us seperate TEAM divisions,
in my view, it would be cool if we would configure our TEAMS
so that we WOULD have teams that were ALL Surf.
i also would like to see a minimum slot of 40"+,
to limit needless kills and to encourage C&R,,,,,,,
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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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03-16-2009, 01:49 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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BD, just curious, why?
Im pretty sure all 10 of the SB fish last year where surf caught so its not like there was a big advantage to having boats involved. Since this site is made up of a mix of both, why not have a mixed team? Why does it matter?
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Originally Posted by BassDawg
absolutely RIGHT, TDF!
i think that you know what i meant.
and THANKS for your clarification,,,,,,,,,,,
since OTW won't give us seperate TEAM divisions,
in my view, it would be cool if we would configure our TEAMS
so that we WOULD have teams that were ALL Surf.
i also would like to see a minimum slot of 40"+,
to limit needless kills and to encourage C&R,,,,,,,
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making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all
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03-16-2009, 02:04 PM
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
Posts: 5,737
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
BD, just curious, why?
Im pretty sure all 10 of the SB fish last year where surf caught so its not like there was a big advantage to having boats involved. Since this site is made up of a mix of both, why not have a mixed team? Why does it matter?
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I agree, why would you exclude the boaters? Maybe BD is predjudice and he thinks that boat fishermen aren't good enough to be in the same company as the surf guys. 
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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03-16-2009, 02:42 PM
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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OTW has told me personally and via email that they will never have seperate divisions.Something about cameraderie yada yada.I can never envision a handicap system where boat and surf guys will be satisfied with the handicap.Even last year was waay too much as is indicated by our top fish all being surf fish in spite of a banner year from the boat guys.Chris Meaghan is a great guy and runs an awesome tournament but seems to be missing the point here.I'm sure he has sponsors to appease as well as other outside pressures to influence his decision making so like it or leave it. My impression is OTW doesn't show much love for the boat guys. If they ever did decide to make different divisions perhaps the accomplishments of many hardcore anglers would have more merit.Fortunately decisions and impressions aren't based on hypothetical scenarios such as the ones Bassdawg presents.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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03-16-2009, 05:52 PM
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end of the fence guy
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: tiverton ri
Posts: 749
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
BD, just curious, why?
Im pretty sure all 10 of the SB fish last year where surf caught so its not like there was a big advantage to having boats involved. Since this site is made up of a mix of both, why not have a mixed team? Why does it matter?
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yes and the year before when we won it they were all surf fish
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boat fish dont count
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03-16-2009, 06:52 PM
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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With a handicap like the one you enjoyed for that victory the tournament was over before it started.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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03-16-2009, 08:56 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
BD, just curious, why?
Im pretty sure all 10 of the SB fish last year where surf caught so its not like there was a big advantage to having boats involved. Since this site is made up of a mix of both, why not have a mixed team? Why does it matter?
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my point precisely,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
i'm not trying to be exclusionary, more along the lines
of leveling the playing field for ALL teams. the reason we entered 10 surf fish is because our TEAM's 10 largest bass were surf caught.
i mostly thought that it would be more interesting that way, and a way to divide the TEAM competition into two divisions~~~~
since apparently OTW will not and cannot according to ChrisDangles.

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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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03-17-2009, 10:10 AM
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Steve "Van Staal"
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cranston
Posts: 544
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Right now I'm not going to participate but I might change my mind . I would love to win a VanStaal because I don't know how long they will have those as a monthly surf prize but I think I'll just take pictures and release everything and be satisfied with the many VanStaals I already own.
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03-16-2009, 02:20 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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it would be sad if you have 2 groups - boat and surf and separately you dont have enough for 1st place, but combined you would have won.
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making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all
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03-16-2009, 09:17 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,203
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Here's a novel idea....Read ALL the rules...... if you agree to them then by all means enter the tourney and enjoy the hell out of it.........and don't biatch about how its run because by sending in your entry fee you agreed to abide by THEIR RULES.
If you don't agree with them then fold up the bills, stuff them back in your wallet and don't enter........and don't biatch about how its run....because by Not sending in the entry fee it means absolutely nothing to you on how its run.
it really is that simple.....enter or don't....your choice. .... 
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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03-16-2009, 09:23 PM
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#25
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 134
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i think the rules are fine, and i'm happy fishing anywhere i can.
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03-17-2009, 09:18 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
If you don't agree with them then fold up the bills, stuff them back in your wallet and don't enter........and don't biatch about how its run....because by Not sending in the entry fee it means absolutely nothing to you on how its run.
it really is that simple.....enter or don't....your choice. .... 
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Great point.
Thats why I keep my wallet shut. Not my cup of tea, but I won't gripe about it 
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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03-17-2009, 06:28 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Here's a novel idea....Read ALL the rules...... if you agree to them then by all means enter the tourney and enjoy the hell out of it.........and don't biatch about how its run because by sending in your entry fee you agreed to abide by THEIR RULES.
If you don't agree with them then fold up the bills, stuff them back in your wallet and don't enter........and don't biatch about how its run....because by Not sending in the entry fee it means absolutely nothing to you on how its run.
it really is that simple.....enter or don't....your choice. .... 
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oh really, it's about rules???
WOW, TDF, you are brilliant.
can't a guy talk about the esoterics of a question without
being accused of snivelling?? i have absolutely ZERO problems
with the RULES,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i compete each year, i killed only one striper
for the entire tourney, and i LOVE the challenge for The Cup.
my point was merely from an "it would be interesting if,,,,,,,,,,,",
and "since they do not why couldn't we, IFFF we wanted/agreed/thought it was necessary to
configure our TEAMS that weigh, SIMPLY for the chits and giggles of it. you know to add our own wrinkle to the contest~~~~~~IIIIFFFF, we so desired.
to each his own, and i will be IN!!
tons of fun and the party at the brewery ain't too bad either.
good luck to ALL ~teams, individuals, surf, boat~ it's ALL fishin'!

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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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03-17-2009, 09:23 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,690
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Same here. I don't think that killing the stocks of a species that was almost wiped out once and may be on the brink agian is worth competing over.
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03-17-2009, 09:27 AM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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It will all come to an end soon anyway.....
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03-17-2009, 10:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ma/RI
Posts: 307
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I would like to join the team this year.
can you enter the striper cup solo?? Or do they only have team divisions?
I could use a new Van Staal.
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