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03-24-2009, 08:39 AM
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Marijuana Legalization Bills Introduced In Massachusetts
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A pair of bills — House Bill 2929 and Senate Bill 1801 — seeking to “tax and regulate the cannabis industry” have just been introduced in the Massachusetts legislature.
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http://blog.norml.org/2009/03/23/nor...massachusetts/
Now, when this was first mentioned in California, I said that it was only a matter of time before we saw similar proposals in MA. It seems every Against-the-grain law CA passes, MA is shortly behind. I thought it would be at least a year or so.
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03-24-2009, 10:22 AM
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making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all
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03-24-2009, 10:38 AM
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Peter Tosh was/is great. Probably didn't get as much recognition as he deserved because of his crappy disposition and problems with authority.
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Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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03-24-2009, 10:43 AM
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he also had this "Marley" complex where he thought he deserved the recognition Bob received.
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03-24-2009, 12:19 PM
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It seems the new drug tsar Norm Stamper and new attorney general have positive views of medical use and decriminalization too. The attorney general recently said the feds would no longer go after medical clinics/users of marijuana. The new drug Tsar when asked which drugs hed legalize , he answered "All of them, every last one.I bet other states will soon follow.Two recent studies by academics at Harvard and Virginia's George Mason University suggest the U.S. government could see a windfall of anywhere from $14 to $40 billion annually through decriminalization of marijuana. The figures combine law enforcement savings and potential marijuana tax revenues.
Iam all for the legalization of all drugs, hard and soft. Take the money away from all the drug dealers and criminals selling and smuggling it. Have the drugs sold and taxed by the goverment, who use the money for treatment and health care. Make drugs cheap so no one needs to rob to support their habit. Nurses could be at distrubution centers to help with health care and to offer rehab to anyone who needs it , for as long as it takes for them to recover. Its much cheaper to have someone in rehab , then locked up in jail. If we cant keep drugs out of the prison system , where people are under 24 hour supervision. How do they ever expect to keep them out of a free society????
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03-24-2009, 12:28 PM
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03-24-2009, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
I hope I don't see the day when everyone acts this dopey!
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I'd hope I was that composed answering tough questions as the leader of the free world.
You, I'd guess wouldn't do so well.
-spence
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03-25-2009, 08:51 AM
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I'd hope I was that composed answering tough questions as the leader of the free world.
You, I'd guess wouldn't do so well.
-spence
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WTF Spence. Tough questions???
If that was Bush you would laugh your ass off.
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04-01-2009, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I'd hope I was that composed answering tough questions as the leader of the free world.
You, I'd guess wouldn't do so well.
-spence
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dude, what happened to you? You have seriosuly lost you're mind, why are you SO in the tank for this guy?
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03-24-2009, 11:16 PM
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Now you're recycling videos? Come on, at least get back to being creative.
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03-25-2009, 04:33 AM
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it's about time
it's about space
it's time to join the human Race.... la la la 
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03-25-2009, 08:53 AM
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Now you're recycling videos? Come on, at least get back to being creative.
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I thought that was funny, Sorry JD. I need a little sensitivity training. I forget how on edge the Obamarites are.
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03-25-2009, 09:29 AM
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Little opposition seen to decriminalization of marijuana
March 24, 2009 - projo.com
PROVIDENCE — No one seems to be getting worked up about a bill before the General Assembly that would decriminalize possession of less than an ounce of marijuana, making it a civil violation punishable by fine rather than jail time.
At a hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee last week, only three people — a former New Jersey police detective, a spokesman for a convict assistance agency and a representative of the American Civil Liberties Union — testified about the bill. All were in favor of it.
No one from the attorney general’s office, the governor’s office or any other state agency appeared to oppose it. Nor was there anyone from the state’s law enforcement agencies to speak a negative word.
Amy Kempe, spokeswoman for Governor Carcieri, said it would be premature for the governor to comment on a bill that has not been voted on by either the House or the Senate, since it could change in any number of ways during that process. If it’s approved, she said, the governor would take a position on the bill as passed. The state Health Department, which had opposed last year’s medical marijuana bill, had no position and the state’s drug court officials declined to comment as well.
Attorney General Patrick C. Lynch’s spokesman, Michael Healey, said with literally hundreds and hundreds of bills introduced each session, Lynch had to pick the ones that most closely affected his office’s operations or legislative priorities. He said the marijuana decriminalization bill was not one of them. Healey added Lynch had supported the medical marijuana law.
Pawtucket Police Chief George L. Kelley III, president of the Rhode Island Police Chiefs’ Association, also declined to comment, either personally or on his organization’s behalf, saying the bill “is not on our radar.”
The Assembly last year overrode a Carcieri veto to legalize marijuana for medical uses. A new bill sponsored by Sen. Leo R. Blais, R-Coventry, would not make possession of an ounce or less of marijuana legal, but it would reduce penalty for such possession from up to a year of jail time to a civil violation with a maximum $100 fine and forfeiture of the marijuana. The laws concerning possession with intent to sell would not be changed.
Sen. Charles J. Levesque, D-Portsmouth, vice chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he thought that with the state facing such a difficult time with its budget, fiscal issues might shunt the Blais bill aside, at least this year.
Blais said he thought his bill had a 60-percent chance of passing this session. He attributed the lack of vocal opposition to last year’s passage of the medical marijuana law, saying it showed support for easing the penalties concerning a small amount of the drug.
“We approved medical marijuana,” Blais said. “That was the fight. That horse is already out of the barn and in the next field.”
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03-25-2009, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cheferson
Little opposition seen to decriminalization of marijuana
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For a state that has one of the highest unemployment rates in the US and is on its way to bankruptcy, I'm surprised they aren't trying to follow in California's (and now Mass') footsteps with legalizing and taxing.
It is however, interesting that *no one* showed up in opposition. There was quite the uproar here when that proposal was put on the ballet and again after it passed. The most opposition seems to come from Law Enforcement and Extreme Conservatives (yeah, a bit redundant to say). I can understand the Law Enforcement concerns, but I question why a group who's founding principle is "less government, less regulation" would be against policy that represents that principle.
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03-25-2009, 09:33 AM
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I thought that was funny, Sorry JD. I need a little sensitivity training. I forget how on edge the Obamarites are.
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I'm not on edge. I just expect a little bit of effort and originality. 
That video has already been discussed.
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03-24-2009, 07:10 PM
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03-24-2009, 08:04 PM
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Bongs!! Everyone will need bongs!!!!
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03-26-2009, 05:53 AM
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Decriminilization maybe, Tax it never. That would condone it. That's not the intent of decriminilizing it.
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03-26-2009, 06:13 AM
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Government agreed to tax it
but to continue to hide their collective heads in the sand
they never created the tax stamp on purpose
and that was 62 years ago

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03-26-2009, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Decriminilization maybe, Tax it never. That would condone it. That's not the intent of decriminilizing it.
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Could make a lot of revenues from taxing hemp.
-spence
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03-26-2009, 08:26 AM
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Decriminilization maybe, Tax it never. That would condone it. That's not the intent of decriminilizing it.
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Cigarettes are taxed. I guess that means even with all the funding the government provides to non-profits that help people quit, the government condones smoking?
Alcohol is taxed. Even though they provide funding for AA and rehab clinics, they must condone drinking alcohol as well.
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03-26-2009, 06:48 PM
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but alcohol and cigarettes are legal. 
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03-26-2009, 07:14 PM
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and both are more harmful to society
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03-26-2009, 07:23 PM
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and both are more harmful to society
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i agree with you 100%. sarcasm doesn't work well online.i figured it would be the next excuse against legalization.
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03-26-2009, 07:29 PM
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and both are more harmful to society
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Herb is harmful to society. there is no denying that fact..
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03-26-2009, 07:40 PM
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That would be cool we could have a bong building forum,not only that fast food restaurant sales would increase state revenues.
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"If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there would be a shortage of fishing poles"
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03-27-2009, 04:36 AM
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That would be cool we could have a bong building forum,not only that fast food restaurant sales would increase state revenues.
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2 1/2 inch bluefish makes the best bongs
you can drop that sucker a thousand times
and it's not going to shatter and leave glass
splinters in places for ten years.....that your
foot finds a decade later... Glass Sucks 
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03-27-2009, 07:46 AM
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Glass Sucks 
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Your killin me Raven
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03-27-2009, 08:01 AM
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Glass always SUCKS
unless it's full of wine or BEER
i want to see the clarity
and make sure nothings
floating in it.

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03-27-2009, 08:06 AM
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This site isn't a head shop so what makes for best paraphernalia isn't going on here.
Discussing legalization or not is one thing, recipes for something illegal is another. I'll let you clean it up though - thanks...
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