So Where Is The Stimulous Money??? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

BigFish · 04-08-2009, 09:31 PM

I thought government had approved almost a trillion dollars for stimulous monies to be distributed around to the countries towns, cities and states to save and/or create jobs???? So why I ask is the city of Boston poised to lay off 500 city jobs consisting of police and teachers???? Where is this supposed money I wonder???

What a joke this government is!!!

Raider Ronnie · 04-08-2009, 09:57 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090311/...kennedy_legacy

BigFish · 04-08-2009, 10:23 PM

Yeah I saw that.....the rich get richer!! How is this going to benefit the taxpayers again???

JohnnyD · 04-08-2009, 11:50 PM

I can only speak for Mansfield.

The town will receive $2.1 million for the 2009-2010 school year. Of that money, only half can be used to pay teachers (read: save jobs), the other half must be spent on professional development and other education programs for the students. Approximately 20 teaching jobs in Mansfield will be saved due to the stimulus, but there is still discussion that up to 68 teachers will be losing their job.

They have been told, any non-tenured teacher (at the school 3 years or less) will be getting a pink slip. First round of slips go out later this month.

Next year, the town will be receiving more money. The total amount is yet to be determined.

Raven · 04-09-2009, 05:59 AM

i read that a percentage of your taxes paid in will be reduced
thus providing more take home....$money. i have my doubts tho.

spence · 04-09-2009, 06:13 AM

Larry, it's a myth. Buck has taught us that police and teachers don't really get terminated, it's all liberal scare tactics.

As for the Stimulus, only 180B or so is slated to be spent this fiscal year across the entire country. I know that a lot of State infrastructure projects are already being funded. It's probably a lot of more difficult to get money into town budgets that rapidly.

-spence

BigFish · 04-09-2009, 06:35 AM

Well at least a high priority cause like "The Kennedy Library" is first on the list......and the "Ted Kennedy Institute" is second I guess?? Can you say.....campaign payback?!!

RIROCKHOUND · 04-09-2009, 06:12 AM

I got my check, didn't you??

Then again I voted for him

sokinwet · 04-09-2009, 06:35 AM

Although some folks seem to think bags of money have already been passed out the reality is that most funds are just becoming available. For example: you may have seem the newspaper stories on local communities receiving DOE funding. This $$ is just coming on line and communities must still submit an application that meets the program mandates to "create jobs" and reduce energy consumption. Community Development funds for infrastructure are not yet available as final regulations are being finalized. All fed. programs still have to go through public notice and environmental review processes, jobs have to be bid out, agencies have to gear up and put reporting systems online , etc.(reporting requirements are very strict on these $$'s....something "new" called accountability) If anyone is "really" interested in how stimulus funds are being distributed the info. is all there online....or you can just go on with mindless blog bitching.

JohnnyD · 04-09-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sokinwet

If anyone is "really" interested in how stimulus funds are being distributed the info. is all there online....or you can just go on with mindless blog bitching.

Thank you for being sensible. Some people have the mentality "I don't see it, so it mustn't be happening." They don't realized the world is bigger than the small bubble they choose to put themselves into.

RIJIMMY · 04-09-2009, 11:01 AM

thats cool, sounds like not much has been distributed.
Housing prices stabilizing, stock market gaining ground, fewer jobs lost last month than estimated, banks showing profit. Every store/restaurant I see is packed.
Can we just say it was a good idea and call it quits, put the 780 BBBBBbillion in the bank for a rainy day?

spence · 04-09-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

thats cool, sounds like not much has been distributed.
Housing prices stabilizing, stock market gaining ground, fewer jobs lost last month than estimated, banks showing profit. Every store/restaurant I see is packed.
Can we just say it was a good idea and call it quits, put the 780 BBBBBbillion in the bank for a rainy day?

Yep, recession over

You think many businesses have hit bottom? Wait till July-Sept...

-spence

Nebe · 04-09-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

Yep, recession over

You think many businesses have hit bottom? Wait till July-Sept...

-spence

exactly.... my business got hit hard back when oil prices spiked.. my overhead went way up and my sales went way down.. I dont foresee things getting better for me for at least a year or maybe even 2.. In the mean time, I am living very simply..

justplugit · 04-09-2009, 09:45 PM

My youngest daughter manages a bank.
As of yesterday she was $ 7 million over budget because her small business customers are saving rather than reinvesting in their business.
No new jobs there.

striperman36 · 04-10-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Yep, recession over

You think many businesses have hit bottom? Wait till July-Sept...

-spence

Yup alot of people expecting to have plenty of fishing time for the funny fish and the fall run this year.

I see mixed discussions, many this is a sucker's run and others trying to bully pulpit this as the fix is in, the fox is out of the hen house.

On the fence, Q1 earnings season hasn't started in earnest yet.

Mr. Sandman · 04-10-2009, 09:53 AM

Like I said to my wife the other night...

"I got your stimulus package right here baby"

Nebe · 04-10-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

Like I said to my wife the other night...

"I got your stimulus package right here baby"

Fillabuster!!
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

buckman · 04-09-2009, 02:53 PM

They rushed it through because the world was going to end. No time to read it, just spend it as quick as they can. etc. I don't know, why would anyone expect to see money from it?

The stimulas bill had nothing to do with the economy to begin with, other then using the decline of America as a scare tactic to pass a socialist agenda.

And, I am willing to bet, Spence and JD, Mansfield schools, the kids and the public saftey in town, will be just fine come next fall. Despite what the doomsayers are telling you. I can think of other BS we can and will cut in town before the schools go under.

JohnnyD · 04-09-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

And, I am willing to bet, Spence and JD, Mansfield schools, the kids and the public saftey in town, will be just fine come next fall. Despite what the doomsayers are telling you. I can think of other BS we can and will cut in town before the schools go under.

First round of pink slips are due to go out in 2 weeks.

We'll know at the end of the month who's right.

buckman · 04-09-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD

First round of pink slips are due to go out in 2 weeks.

We'll know at the end of the month who's right.

I feel for you. I have been there myself, as are almost 10% of the country.

JohnnyD · 04-09-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

I feel for you. I have been there myself, as are almost 10% of the country.

I believe the Unadjusted Unemployment Rate is somewhere near 15%. The Unemployment rate as advertised by the government and news outlets is misleading. It does not take into consideration the people who are unemployed and have given up looking for a job or are now on welfare.

Nebe · 04-09-2009, 04:10 PM

Or self employed people who have no work. Basically, they are only counting those who are collecting.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I believe the Unadjusted Unemployment Rate is somewhere near 15%. The Unemployment rate as advertised by the government and news outlets is misleading. It does not take into consideration the people who are unemployed and have given up looking for a job or are now on welfare.

Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

JohnnyD · 04-20-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

And, I am willing to bet, Spence and JD, Mansfield schools, the kids and the public saftey in town, will be just fine come next fall. Despite what the doomsayers are telling you. I can think of other BS we can and will cut in town before the schools go under.

I wish I didn't have to say it, but I told you so.

On Friday, the Mansfield School System pink slipped over 100 people. Over 70 of those people were teachers.

*If* Mansfield receives the amount they are expecting from the bailout, the schools will still be at a $1-1.4 Million deficit. Discussions will be taking place over the next couple weeks about the possible need for even more layoffs.

Mansfield is on track to have over 40 kids per classroom throughout the school system. Are you okay with your kids being piled into classrooms with 35+ other students, in rooms made for only 25 students?

But this is just the schools doing what they always do, right? I told you guys this wasn't the same as past years.

RIROCKHOUND · 04-10-2009, 03:56 PM

jeezuz...
CB, rational arguments are one thing, debating the stimulus is another; complaining about this presidents speaking abilities after the last 8 years (I wont name names) is just silly. Not one president ever relied upon teleprompters...

Cpt. Crunch · 04-12-2009, 07:37 PM

seems to me most of the whining on this site is done by distraught republicans who don't know what to do with themselves now that they are out of power. Every election cycle the republican party grows smaller and more conservative. They think the best way to get things done is to not do anything at all. I'm glad a majority of the American electorate has figured it out. Now we just have to wait for the short bus to catch up.

buckman · 04-13-2009, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cpt. Crunch

seems to me most of the whining on this site is done by distraught republicans who don't know what to do with themselves now that they are out of power. Every election cycle the republican party grows smaller and more conservative. They think the best way to get things done is to not do anything at all. I'm glad a majority of the American electorate has figured it out. Now we just have to wait for the short bus to catch up.

I like of think of us as distraught Americans and concerned citizens