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buckman · 04-21-2009, 01:59 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/...piracy_suspect

Read the part about the US lawyers offering there services. What a country. We will be supporting (here I go again) this POS before it's over. One bullet away from having it done with. Damn hindsight

Nebe · 04-21-2009, 02:16 PM

that guys got it made in the shade now- our prison system is like a 4 star hotel to a bum from Somalia..

Cool Beans · 04-21-2009, 02:36 PM

I think its highly doubtful that he gets to prison. He'll be released, typical lawyer talk. "He was coerced by drug lords" "He was under a flag of truce and not subject to capture" everyone knows pirate law, you can't harm someone under the rule of "parlay". Mark my words, he will end up under some form of asylum and live out his life in America, and if he is only 16 his mom will be brought over too. A slap on the wrist, and he'll be an American on welfare and foodstamps.

Nebe · 04-21-2009, 02:54 PM

maybe he will get a book deal.

oh wait... RECORD DEAL..move over snoop dog.. the pie rat is in da house...

RIROCKHOUND · 04-21-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool Beans

A slap on the wrist, and he'll be an American on welfare and foodstamps.

Yup.
thats how I see it going down...

RIJIMMY · 04-21-2009, 03:01 PM

that guy won the lottery

Raven · 04-21-2009, 03:19 PM

On OPRAH

EarnedStripes44 · 04-21-2009, 03:29 PM

Fresh fruit delivered to his residence...

spence · 04-21-2009, 05:02 PM

You ever stop and think that's exactly why he jumped on the US boat in the first place?

I'm sure he's going to be held accountable for his actions (as he should) but this isn't the person to make an example of. A bullet Buck? The kid is 16 and has probably seen little more than poverty and violence his entire life. These kids are pawns, they need to go after the big fish...

-spence

Raven · 04-21-2009, 05:20 PM

in that part of the world
he may have already killed
a hundred human beings.
so age of innocence is irrelevant

buckman · 04-21-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

You ever stop and think that's exactly why he jumped on the US boat in the first place?

I'm sure he's going to be held accountable for his actions (as he should) but this isn't the person to make an example of. A bullet Buck? The kid is 16 and has probably seen little more than poverty and violence his entire life. These kids are pawns, they need to go after the big fish...

-spence

This is why the world is going to hell. You are making excuses for someone that may or may not be 16. He is a criminal. just like the kids in Columbine and the thugs that kill each other on the streets of Boston. Everyones a damn victim now.
That kid is no pawn and he has seen more and done more then you and I. They live a tough life, but not all become pirates. Give me a break.

spence · 04-21-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

This is why the world is going to hell. You are making excuses for someone that may or may not be 16. He is a criminal. just like the kids in Columbine and the thugs that kill each other on the streets of Boston. Everyones a damn victim now.
That kid is no pawn and he has seen more and done more then you and I. They live a tough life, but not all become pirates. Give me a break.

You didn't read my post, you just had a knee jerk hissy fit.

Funny, I knew you would

-spence

Mike P · 04-21-2009, 06:53 PM

Anyone care to hazard a guess on what the conviction rate is in the Federal courts? You guys must think they're going to haul this guy in front of a typical Massachusetts District Court judge

I'd bet you on a long stretch in a max secure Federal prison but I think I'd be stealing your money

buckman · 04-21-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

The kid is 16 and has probably seen little more than poverty and violence his entire life. These kids are pawns, they need to go after the big fish...

-spence

Sounds like the ground work being set by his lawyers to me, Spence.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth. Sometimes in the same post.

spence · 04-22-2009, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman

You talk out of both sides of your mouth. Sometimes in the same post.

Actually, it's called objectivity.

-spence

Raider Ronnie · 04-22-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

You ever stop and think that's exactly why he jumped on the US boat in the first place?

I'm sure he's going to be held accountable for his actions (as he should) but this isn't the person to make an example of. A bullet Buck? The kid is 16 and has probably seen little more than poverty and violence his entire life. These kids are pawns, they need to go after the big fish...

-spence

You are something else defending this friggin criminal !!!

spence · 04-23-2009, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

You are something else defending this friggin criminal !!!

Can you read?

-spence

buckman · 04-23-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

Can you read?

-spence

I think what you wrote Spence could be taken as excuse making. IMO

buckman · 04-23-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

A bullet Buck? The kid is 16 and has probably seen little more than poverty and violence his entire life. These kids are pawns, they need to go after the big fish...

-spence

You forgot this part?

spence · 04-23-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

You forgot this part?

That was covered under the "he's a product of the most broken country on the planet" statement.

The fact of the matter is that this kid probably doesn't know any better. There was good article in GQ last month on the issue. The pirates are bringing a lot of money into the communities and providing food and support that the people can't get any other way.

They are seen as modern day Robin Hood's.

That doesn't mean his actions are justified at all. It does mean that making an example of him will do nothing to help the situation. Only addressing the root causes, a terribly weak Somali government and the pirate leadership who's directing the pawns will ever improve the situation.

-spence

buckman · 04-23-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

That was covered under the "he's a product of the most broken country on the planet" statement.

The fact of the matter is that this kid probably doesn't know any better. There was good article in GQ last month on the issue. The pirates are bringing a lot of money into the communities and providing food and support that the people can't get any other way.

They are seen as modern day Robin Hood's.

That doesn't mean his actions are justified at all. It does mean that making an example of him will do nothing to help the situation. Only addressing the root causes, a terribly weak Somali government and the pirate leadership who's directing the pawns will ever improve the situation.

-spence

I believe this kid was a pirate leader.

I missed last months GQ , I was reading fishing mags.

scottw · 04-24-2009, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

That was covered under the "he's a product of the most broken country on the planet" statement.-spence

I thought we were the most broken country on the planet...aren't the dems constantly telling us that every aspect of America is broken and "in crisis"

The fact of the matter is that this kid probably doesn't know any better. There was good article in GQ last month on the issue. The pirates are bringing a lot of money into the communities and providing food and support that the people can't get any other way(like Obama).

You should be his lawyer Spence Alynski..."he didn't know any better"..poor baby...I knew you were a GQ metrosexual...but judging by your photo...you really need a haircut...

They are seen as modern day Robin Hood's. so is Obama..does that make him a pirate too? will he be bare chested with a parrot on his shoulder on the next cover of TIME?...

That doesn't mean his actions are justified at all. It does mean that making an example of him will do nothing to help the situation. Only addressing the root causes(CALL THE UN), a terribly weak Somali government and the pirate leadership who's directing the pawns will ever improve the situation.

yeah...punishment doesn't ever work... what we need to do is put the entire country of Somalia on welfare courtesy of America, I mean...we're loaded...or...we could just print more money...and that will solve everything....or ban the use of the word pirate all together...that's another approach.....

LET OUR PIRATE GO !!!!!....HE'S A HARMLESS TWIT...YOU MUST ACQUIT!

RIROCKHOUND · 04-21-2009, 07:11 PM

MikeP; me too...
I think my sarcasm was lost in translation...

PaulS · 04-22-2009, 06:54 AM

For all the people who think he's going to get off w/o a sentence. Anyone want bet a plug?

spence · 04-22-2009, 07:26 AM

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For all the people who think he's going to get off w/o a sentence. Anyone want bet a plug?

Yep, if the system has been so corrupted by Liberals as some have accused, it's time for them to put the money where the mouth is.

-spence

buckman · 04-22-2009, 03:07 PM

He already got off compared to the other guys fate. He's going to get the best lawyers because they love the limelight. He's got a chance, a good chance of getting off.

scottw · 04-22-2009, 03:15 PM

you guys bet...I will build a plug for the winner...

oh, it will have an eye patch so that when you fish with it you will laugh and remember how you got it...

JohnnyD · 04-22-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw

you guys bet...I will build a plug for the winner...

oh, it will have an eye patch so that when you fish with it you will laugh and remember how you got it...

Now that's pretty awesome.

Very kind of you scott. I'm curious to see which one of them win.

spence · 04-22-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

He already got off compared to the other guys fate. He's going to get the best lawyers because they love the limelight. He's got a chance, a good chance of getting off.

How can you think he has a good chance? He's already lost the first round by being tried as an adult. He may not see life but he's in Federal prison for a good amount of time. It's not like he can argue that he isn't guilty of piracy. At best he can say he was forced into it, but even then he's not going to find a lot of love.

-spence

Cool Beans · 04-22-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

How can you think he has a good chance? He's already lost the first round by being tried as an adult. He may not see life but he's in Federal prison for a good amount of time. It's not like he can argue that he isn't guilty of piracy. At best he can say he was forced into it, but even then he's not going to find a lot of love.

-spence

He's being tried as an adult, because his father and brother both say he is 18 almost 19. His mother was more than likely going for sympathy by saying he was 16. Even tried as an adult, I still think there is a good chance he's getting off.