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08-11-2009, 06:10 PM
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All up in the Interweb!
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Swords: Life on the line
Anyone else excited for this one? Premieres tonight at 9 on Dicovery.
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/swords/ |
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- a wise man. 
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
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08-11-2009, 06:34 PM
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I am interested, i hope they show her getting arrested.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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08-11-2009, 07:16 PM
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Also known as OAK
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Not really...
Long lining leaves a bad taste in my mouth....
I have a self imposed Swordfish ban (unless I know where it came from; dart or R&R)
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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08-11-2009, 07:29 PM
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Toby what's up with that hat? Did you lose a bet and had to post that as your avatar:  |
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08-12-2009, 06:07 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Not really...
Long lining leaves a bad taste in my mouth....
I have a self imposed Swordfish ban (unless I know where it came from; dart or R&R)
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Me, too. Few people realize one of the best swordfish grounds in the world was the water between BI and Nomans and out 10-15 miles. As a kid I watched 300-500lb fish brought to the dock by boats out for just the day (harpooned). Long lining put an end to all that and wiped out the great white marlin fishery we had 20 years ago to boot. Just another commercial interest/fishery management/greed horror story. |
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08-12-2009, 06:20 AM
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Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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I only watched because I was fog bound... that Mako didnt live.... what about the baby sword Chompers caught... not legal.. but dead.. alot of waste... too much blood for the average folk.. show wont be as popular as the crabbers..
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A good run is better than a bad stand!
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08-12-2009, 06:45 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Wasn't too impressed - may watch on occasion and might not.
I also have a self-imposed sword ban. Another case of too many hooks in the water.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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08-12-2009, 01:15 PM
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Ban Sluggos
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: east taunton, ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockfish9
I only watched because I was fog bound... that Mako didnt live.... what about the baby sword Chompers caught... not legal.. but dead.. alot of waste... too much blood for the average folk.. show wont be as popular as the crabbers..
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agreed, its one thing to see a full pot of crab come over the rail, but seeing swords and big tuna get dragged on board bleeding will put a lot of viewers off quickly... |
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08-12-2009, 04:20 PM
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Location: Hyde Park, MA
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It's also one thing to haul crab DURING dangerous seas, and another to finish hauling fish before a storm hits.
This will rank up along with the Lobstermen saga and the Tuna Wranglers......   |
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08-11-2009, 07:29 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
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I hope they never do a show on surfcasting new england... when spots are crowded on august full moon weeknights, the last thing we would need is promotion.
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08-11-2009, 08:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
I hope they never do a show on surfcasting new england... when spots are crowded on august full moon weeknights, the last thing we would need is promotion.
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I can't wait to see the movie "Montauk Rocks" come out  .
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ad.php?t=55068
It's already a zoo out there. You can usually find some room though. Plus, the googs make for good entertainment  . |
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08-11-2009, 08:20 PM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
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"if they hook a shark they have to let it go"
Yet they stuck and gaffed the mako?
Yeah.
This show is a pile of crap so far.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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08-12-2009, 04:13 AM
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I caught that too but he said that after all the blood in the water before the shark even came on the boat 
lame.
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Originally Posted by likwid
"if they hook a shark they have to let it go"
Yet they stuck and gaffed the mako?
Yeah.
This show is a pile of crap so far.
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08-11-2009, 08:01 PM
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watching it now... what ever happend to the lobster one?
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08-11-2009, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tlapinski
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I think it might be interesting. |
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08-11-2009, 09:19 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
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you know what happened to the lobster show... After deadliest catch, how can you have a show about fetching lobsters in "treacherous" 8 foot seas with 70 degree water 5 miles from touristville? Maybe if this show came out first, but honestly... that show blew.
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10-01-2009, 12:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
you know what happened to the lobster show... After deadliest catch, how can you have a show about fetching lobsters in "treacherous" 8 foot seas with 70 degree water 5 miles from touristville? Maybe if this show came out first, but honestly... that show blew.
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true that |
"never met a bluefish i wouldn't sell"
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10-01-2009, 12:33 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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I saw a rerun of Swords yesterday or the day before. I found it to be ridiculous. On Linda Greenlaw's boat they lose a bunch of gutted sword carcasses because the boat rolls and they have the gunnel door open. If I'm fishing for money I'm figuring our a way to secure my catch. Just seemed like the show was too contrived to make it compete with "The Deadliest Catch".
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No boat, back in the suds.  
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10-01-2009, 12:44 PM
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WOW
all I can say is when you all that bash walk a mile in the shoes of the men you like to bash so hard then talk.... Oh wait you dont here that one owner had a green captain that came in about 100 pounds over on monk tail one day on a new bout... Here is the important part.. OWNER CAPTAIN AND BOAT NEVER I MEAN NEVER HAD AN OVER QUOTA INFRACYION THE OWNER HAS BEEN FISHING FOR BETTER THAN 30 YEARS.... You dont hear this part first things first 30 day tie up boat and captain.. hmm month outta work .. that hurts.. part 2 5 DAYS AT SEA.. Ok that is a death nail once your landings are off you lose those days permanately... oh and they get 28 a year to start with.. part 3 200k fine yea thats 200,000 hmm and yall think you get hit for speeding to work in am after a long night...now the fine was levied down to 75k the days not lost and the 30 day stayed in affect.. Only took 2 years and god knows how much in lawyers fees.. Im sorry but yall watch a show and get this bashing going.. First chompers is an idiot.. the shark was not kept maybe cause of permits.. The gaffing it... well hey it is what it is.. I doubt any one n this forum is christ like or virgin of sin in fishing... You have no idea what ist like to do this in most cases, its not an easy beer drinking life style its hard work and a hard life.. I know first hand lobstered and long lined.. When your in 25+ foot seas on a 50 foot boat yea life is great... people get freaked out about 5 foot swells in their 33 foot cc ha!... sorry guys I do not care what any one thinks If you dont live it dont bash it... Yea my family has been in commercial fishing for many generations and is now getting sqeezed in a stranglehold by the NMFA and its regs and cutbacks... I dont think if any of you were looking at working 14 days a year and that was all that was allowed you would be impressed either... And as far as the fisheries between the block and mainland... I know first hand what that was about... My family is there and has been since day one... sorry I went on this rant but......
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10-01-2009, 03:12 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Islander77
all I can say is when you all that bash walk a mile in the shoes of the men you like to bash so hard then talk.... Oh wait you dont here that one owner had a green captain that came in about 100 pounds over on monk tail one day on a new bout... Here is the important part.. OWNER CAPTAIN AND BOAT NEVER I MEAN NEVER HAD AN OVER QUOTA INFRACYION THE OWNER HAS BEEN FISHING FOR BETTER THAN 30 YEARS.... You dont hear this part first things first 30 day tie up boat and captain.. hmm month outta work .. that hurts.. part 2 5 DAYS AT SEA.. Ok that is a death nail once your landings are off you lose those days permanately... oh and they get 28 a year to start with.. part 3 200k fine yea thats 200,000 hmm and yall think you get hit for speeding to work in am after a long night...now the fine was levied down to 75k the days not lost and the 30 day stayed in affect.. Only took 2 years and god knows how much in lawyers fees.. Im sorry but yall watch a show and get this bashing going.. First chompers is an idiot.. the shark was not kept maybe cause of permits.. The gaffing it... well hey it is what it is.. I doubt any one n this forum is christ like or virgin of sin in fishing... You have no idea what ist like to do this in most cases, its not an easy beer drinking life style its hard work and a hard life.. I know first hand lobstered and long lined.. When your in 25+ foot seas on a 50 foot boat yea life is great... people get freaked out about 5 foot swells in their 33 foot cc ha!... sorry guys I do not care what any one thinks If you dont live it dont bash it... Yea my family has been in commercial fishing for many generations and is now getting sqeezed in a stranglehold by the NMFA and its regs and cutbacks... I dont think if any of you were looking at working 14 days a year and that was all that was allowed you would be impressed either... And as far as the fisheries between the block and mainland... I know first hand what that was about... My family is there and has been since day one... sorry I went on this rant but......
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I wasn't bashing the captain, Linda Greenlaw. She has a huge reputation and deservedly so. I was bashing the producers of the show who made her and the other boat captains look like a bunch of fools. They didn't portray the hard life that a commercial fisherman has. They seems to think that by showing a bunch of guys jumping around yelling "this is what it's about" they were doing justice to a hard working bunch of regular people.
BTW, I would never bash the commercial guys. I worked with a bunch of guys who were commercial deep water lobstermen and other who worked draggers. I was a logger at the time and use to trade firewood for lobster and tile fish (when they were fishing tiles).
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No boat, back in the suds.
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10-01-2009, 04:40 PM
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Too old to give a....
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How do you even live on 28 days at sea ?
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May fortune favor the foolish....
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10-01-2009, 04:43 PM
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I watched the show for a few hours the other night,
It was OK , not sure if I will watch again,
I have not eaten a Sword Fish in over 22 years , I thought everyone was boycotting them? (Hell I am doing my part)
In the good old days they were stacked up like cords of wood on the Vineyard, and they sold the sword's inside for a few bucks as I remember
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08-11-2009, 10:26 PM
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Like to see local boats out of my home town, New bedford on tv. But didnt know newbedford was still NE largest fishing port?
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08-12-2009, 04:15 AM
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Chronicle had a show on last week re NB. I believe they quoted that if you ate any of the dozen or so fish they mentioned in PARIS that chances are it came out of NB. Sid Wainer is the biggest distributor now they said. Something around 60% of restaurant seafood in the US comes out of NB.
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Originally Posted by srt44116
Like to see local boats out of my home town, New bedford on tv. But didnt know newbedford was still NE largest fishing port?
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08-12-2009, 07:00 AM
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Gaff and release a baby sword, and gaff and presumably cut loose a pup mako with 3 gaffs in it in the first 15 min.
I'll watch out of curiosity, but longlining sucks.
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08-12-2009, 07:41 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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longlines - another indescriminate killer...  that boy from nc - not too bright, 55' to the banks...betcha they did'nt buy many episodes. |
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08-12-2009, 08:10 AM
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Here fishy fishy
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Thought it was OK, nothing great. May give it a few more episodes but will prob. get bored. However, I do love swordfish.
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08-12-2009, 08:44 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
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I didn't get a chance to see it - I'll have to try and catch the repeat but it doesn't sound like I missed much
My wife and I have refused to buy or eat sword for years - I'd always opt for mako which we felt was a lot better if I could find it - but we haven't bought it either given the state of that fishery
Here's an image I have from the old Angler's Art website circa 1911 of a sword catch at BI - I've got another - if I can find it...  ...with a gentleman who looks remarkably like my great-grandfather (who spent lots of time on the Block during that period)
Hell, he probably spent time drinking nickel beers with Joe Lyon's great grandpa at the National there on the Island back in the day... 
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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08-12-2009, 09:19 AM
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On one hand, I like to watch ANYONE fish, on the other, I hate seeing such waste as the small sword and the shark. I was on a party boat in the keys a while back catching mostly yellowtail. The mates set up on a shark, battled it for almost 2 hrs, then gaffed it in the tail, then the gills, then the line snapped and i watched a beautiful 11ft hammerhead drift to the bottom bleeding out. They were pissed when I told them they werent getting a dime for a tip from me. It was the last time I did a party boat thing.
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08-12-2009, 10:32 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
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Location: Rhode Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bocephus
On one hand, I like to watch ANYONE fish, on the other, I hate seeing such waste as the small sword and the shark. I was on a party boat in the keys a while back catching mostly yellowtail. The mates set up on a shark, battled it for almost 2 hrs, then gaffed it in the tail, then the gills, then the line snapped and i watched a beautiful 11ft hammerhead drift to the bottom bleeding out. They were pissed when I told them they werent getting a dime for a tip from me. It was the last time I did a party boat thing.
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Good for you! I gave up swordfish long ago. I eat Bass and farm raised Salmon. |
No boat, back in the suds.
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