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10-29-2009, 01:20 PM
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Strange things happen...
...when administrations change along with the impression of "bomb the sh!t out of Iran" to "let's try to figure this out alongside our allies."
Iran responds to nuclear proposal
Iran responds to nuclear proposal - CNN.com
As of late, there are a lot of things the Obama administration has done that I've strongly disagreed with. However, from the start, I have been a proponent of their approach to Iran.
It will be interesting to see what the details of the agreement iron out to be and if Iran follows through with their commitment. This is the strongest sign of cooperation from Iran that the international community has seen yet. |
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10-29-2009, 02:46 PM
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sick of bluefish
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you should read some books on the history of Europe 1925-1940.
Believe it or not Hitler was seen as a brilliant diplomat. Chamberlin from England loved him. Hitler frequently made concessions to get what he wanted.
With nukes, you either have them or you dont. Every consession buys Iran more time.
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10-29-2009, 06:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
you should read some books on the history of Europe 1925-1940.
Believe it or not Hitler was seen as a brilliant diplomat. Chamberlin from England loved him. Hitler frequently made concessions to get what he wanted.
With nukes, you either have them or you dont. Every consession buys Iran more time.
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I am with Jim here. this is dangerous territory |
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10-29-2009, 09:23 PM
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Whoops, looks like Iran changed their mind about sending uranium
out of the country which they had agreed to last week.
More stalling.
The only thing that will get their attention is strength.
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10-30-2009, 04:59 AM
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more of the same
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10-30-2009, 09:06 AM
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If you bomb Iran's nuclear capacity and you don't capitulate the theocracy, you open yourself up to state-sponsored nuclear terrorism. Make no mistake, the Iranians will retaliate if attacked so long as there is continuity with respect to command and control. In the real world, the military answer brings with it the baggage of occupation and nation building. Our military is stretched as it is now - even if we were so inclined as to attack, logistically, we're not in a position to conduct such operations.
Also, Iran is overwhelmingly Shia where Afghanistan and Iraq are Sunni - so how you treat each nation and the progress each makes will be held up for comparison. This could also spell trouble as we could be seen as being more for one arm of Islam than the other.
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10-29-2009, 03:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
...when administrations change along with the impression of "bomb the sh!t out of Iran" to "let's try to figure this out alongside our allies."
Iran responds to nuclear proposal
Iran responds to nuclear proposal - CNN.com
As of late, there are a lot of things the Obama administration has done that I've strongly disagreed with. However, from the start, I have been a proponent of their approach to Iran.
It will be interesting to see what the details of the agreement iron out to be and if Iran follows through with their commitment. This is the strongest sign of cooperation from Iran that the international community has seen yet. |
We have heard this all before JD. It's called 'stall tactics" and any third grader can see it. |
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10-29-2009, 03:26 PM
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Do you think Israel will believe anything Iran has to say about
their nuclear program?  |
" Choose Life "
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10-29-2009, 03:38 PM
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Do you think Israel will believe anything Iran has to say about
their nuclear program? |
Nope. But quite frankly, Israel is the bastard child of the US that needs to be cut off. |
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10-29-2009, 05:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Nope. But quite frankly, Israel is the bastard child of the US that needs to be cut off.
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I tend to agree with you here JD |
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10-30-2009, 08:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Nope. But quite frankly, Israel is the bastard child of the US that needs to be cut off.
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If we jettison Israel we will never ever have any varacity anywhere in the world ever again. |
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10-30-2009, 10:47 PM
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Israel is our only true ally in the region - the only one who would be willing to back us unconditionally so long as our goals remain pro-Israel. But I think one day the cost of our friendship with Israel may prove very high. Once that day comes, I think you will see public support in the U.S. for Israel begin to degrade.
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