WTF

[nightfighter]

SEALs accused of assaulting alleged terrorist - Navy News, news from Iraq - Navy Times

Last I heard, we were in a war against terrorism... How can we ask Americans to be deployed to war, and then trump up chit like this? PC needs to die.

[Fly Rod]

I was a very gung-ho Marine in Nam.

Today I would not want a family member of mine to go in the service without a lawyer. Matter of fact I would not allow a family member to join.

[justplugit]

Why didn't they follow the new cookies and milk interrogation method?

[nightfighter]

Flyrod,
Be sure to read the book, "Lone Survivor" about the dilemmas facing a Seal team in the battle of Afghanistan. Forced to make a choice, in combat, to avoid scrutiny from the PC group, that ultimately cost all but one of their lives.....

[Fly Rod]

I had watched a program that this person was on. i do belive that it was afganistans that also saved him.

[JohnR]

Lawfare - only worse now.

[Raven]

so what do we have to do now

to be politically correct .......

walk up and slap them across the face with a white glove?

[buckman]

Obama should have stood up for these guys. Another indication of the feelings
for the military from within the current administration

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

Obama should have stood up for these guys. Another indication of the feelings
for the military from within the current administration

I knew someone would immediately stoop to this.

[Fly Rod]

This guy from Mass. Mike Capuano that is running for the senate will be another black mark aganist our men and women in uniform if he wins a seat. Back a couple of years ago John Murtha accused Marines of false atrocities by the enemy. We had better start thinking who is the enemy of our brave military men and women, looks like some of the enemy is sitting in the house of congress and the senate.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

This guy from Mass. Mike Capuano that is running for the senate will be another black mark aganist our men and women in uniform if he wins a seat. Back a couple of years ago John Murtha accused Marines of false atrocities by the enemy. We had better start thinking who is the enemy of our brave military men and women, looks like some of the enemy is sitting in the house of congress and the senate.

So now you're calling a fellow US Marine the enemy?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

-spence

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by spence

So now you're calling a fellow US Marine the enemy?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

-spence

Murtha is no F@#$marine, he's
I would think that fellow Marines have disowned him.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I knew someone would immediately stoop to this.

Truth hurts doesn't it JD. As Spence states, strange for such a minor infraction. I guess your ok with it. I just don't get you. Your all over the map.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Truth hurts doesn't it JD. As Spence states, strange for such a minor infraction. I guess your ok with it. I just don't get you. Your all over the map.

Your statement about Obama was in the past tense.

-spence

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

Truth hurts doesn't it JD. As Spence states, strange for such a minor infraction. I guess your ok with it. I just don't get you. Your all over the map.

Doesn't hurt at all. As of the above mention of the incident, no one really knows anything about the incident.

The pathetic part, is your immediate inclination to jump on Obama for not defending the soldiers when there might be a possibility that the soldiers were out of line will military processes for handling detainees.

I still think the situation is a joke and shouldn't be news. Even if the soldier did give the guy a knock to the face, it should be met with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

Obama standing up for wrongdoing would only demonstrate that the US condones the behavior - oh right, they do it so why can't we, no? It's attitudes like that which contribute to the drowning of morals for which this country is suppose to stand for.

[buckman]

These guys won't get anything from Obama..Not even the benifit of the doubt. Something you and other are so inclined to give our President.
I'm sick of all the fuss over what our image is all over the world. If you want us to act like the French then just say so. Our guys are trained killers. They are not beat cops that should have to worry about what some lawyer says. We are at WAR!!!!!!

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Doesn't hurt at all. As of the above mention of the incident, no one really knows anything about the incident.

The pathetic part, is your immediate inclination to jump on Obama for not defending the soldiers when there might be a possibility that the soldiers were out of line will military processes for handling detainees.

I still think the situation is a joke and shouldn't be news. Even if the soldier did give the guy a knock to the face, it should be met with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

Obama standing up for wrongdoing would only demonstrate that the US condones the behavior - oh right, they do it so why can't we, no? It's attitudes like that which contribute to the drowning of morals for which this country is suppose to stand for.

[spence]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

PC needs to die.

I don't think it's all just as simple as blaming political correctness. Our servicemen and women are governed under laws after all. Additionally there have been real cases of abuse over the years, and if we're going to stay true to our ideals, these cases should be dealt with appropriately. If they never bring charges for this kind of stuff, we loose face to the same Iraqi people we're trying to engage with.

What's odd in this case though is that the abuse appears to be so minor. One punch doesn't seem like it would even register, and we haven't heard of any pattern of behavior. Doesn't seem as much PC as simply a system that's not aligned with the current mission.

What the military should do is find a better way to deal with these cases where the troops are doing their job and believe they're doing it in good faith.

I still think this is going nowhere.

-spence