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12-26-2009, 01:35 PM
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Surprise Care Package from Gag's
Two days before Christmas I receive a package in the mail. My old friend Al Gag sent me a few of his newest creations called a Whip-It Eel. A soft plastic lure on a lead head which appears to mimic a sand eel. With the influx of sand eel populations like we had this past season this product looks promising. Sizes shown are 3/4 ounce head
6" tail, 1 ounce head 8" tail, 1.5 ounce head 8" tail.
I'll put these in some water soon to test them out.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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12-26-2009, 04:07 PM
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Night Stalker
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Hoping you will give feedback on the hook strength. Those look like they have the same weak hooks as the similar baits that are already available from ronz and others. If he puts them out with a decent hook i'll be all over those.
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12-26-2009, 04:30 PM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I live in the Villiage of Hyannis in the Town of Barnstable in the Commonwealth of MA
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Head is interesting
Tail looks lot like RonZ
Got Stryper has strongest hooks set in a head that I know of
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
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12-26-2009, 04:53 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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You're better off buying loose tails and rigging them on good jigheads. Bill Hurley and RonZ already make tails like that which can be bought loose.
Both claim to be oil impregnated, but to my nose, they just smell like plastic 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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12-26-2009, 06:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Dennis , I hope your having a great Holiday
Leave it too Al to come out with Rubba, He is always on the right path for fishing needs
Regards
VB
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12-27-2009, 09:21 AM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 2,461
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GotStryper jig heads are the best on the market. I have caught numerous tuna on the same jig head without failure. If they can stand up to 200 lb tuna a 40 pound bass wouldn't be an issue.
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Make America Great Again.
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12-27-2009, 10:21 AM
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Night Stalker
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Yet to see any got stryper jig heads in the 3/4- 1 1/2 oz. range which is what I need. Also, all I see in the shops are the baits.
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12-27-2009, 10:23 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Does Al Gags advertise here?
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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12-27-2009, 11:25 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimmer
Does Al Gags advertise here?
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Swimmer,
I don't believe he does. He does have a web page though but do to this sites rules I won't post it here.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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12-27-2009, 01:44 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 13
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The Whip it eel has a Mustad Ultra Point hook; Why would this present a problem, unless you are Tuna fishing or fishing the Canal with gear that would be considered overkill in a "normal" Bass fishing scenerio. I have had no problems with Gag's, Ronz,or Hurley's and my understanding is that Gag's will have a Tuna strong model out shortly.
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12-27-2009, 04:17 PM
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Night Stalker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerkinthedark
The Whip it eel has a Mustad Ultra Point hook; Why would this present a problem, unless you are Tuna fishing or fishing the Canal with gear that would be considered overkill in a "normal" Bass fishing scenerio. I have had no problems with Gag's, Ronz,or Hurley's and my understanding is that Gag's will have a Tuna strong model out shortly.
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Fishing mono and fiberglass?  I admittedly fish a drag that is a little too tight and lose fish to it but I like to land them quickly in an effort to get them back into the water more and also to get to the next fish that is hopefully bigger. Today's lure builders should make every effort to use components that can hold up to the strain that today's tackle on the other end puts on them.
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12-27-2009, 04:54 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Luds; Your theory is interesting in the sense that you admit to "horsing" fish in an effort to land possibly a larger one next, yet, you don't take into consideration that some of the fish lost due to this approach, may be the ones your looking for. You definitely need to match your tackle to your approach, but you can't consider anything that doesn't meet your application, inferior. As I said earlier, I have yet to have any issues with the Mustad Ultra- Point so I have no reason to doubt it.
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12-27-2009, 04:55 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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I don't have a problem with DZ checking in with something new, sponsor or not. I encourage it. We want to know what is going on in the world of lures and tackle.
Even if Al Gag's M.O. is to flood product out to a bunch of people to rev up some interest. He does this all of the time anyway so nobody should really be surprised (I was asked by someone if I was interested in checking it out as well, I declined). So we're not likely to see direct  from Al as he won't go near a 'puter. He prefers to send people out to do that 
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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12-27-2009, 04:12 PM
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Registered User
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Location: weymouth
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For me it comes down to cost. I loose so many jigs on the bottom that I cant see spending top dollar just to snag it on the first cast. I have learned you can save money buy buying the rubba in bulk and to drop your coin on the jig head. Just my .02
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thats why they call it fishing not catching
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12-27-2009, 05:06 PM
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Spot Preserver
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Location: Mansfield
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Again Got Strypers jigheads are reasonable if not cheap. As for Al's new bait it looks like a carbon copy of Ron-z. Fish Gotstrypers jigheads and you will never fish another again even if you do horse in fish.
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Make America Great Again.
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12-27-2009, 07:11 PM
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I don't think Mr Ron Z is going to be happy to see such a "tribute" to his lure design hit the market.
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12-28-2009, 05:43 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big jay
I don't think Mr Ron Z is going to be happy to see such a "tribute" to his lure design hit the market.
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RonZ = The Penetrator. Same lure, different owner.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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12-28-2009, 06:33 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
RonZ = The Penetrator. Same lure, different owner.
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One of my favorite threads of all time.
Is Ronz THE PENETRATOR?
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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12-28-2009, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
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He was the perpetrator... 
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12-28-2009, 09:50 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
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RONZ Engineered Soft Baits
Straight from the horse's mouth
The RONZ was originally developed for striped bass fishing on Cape Cod. Used exclusively by commercial striped bass fisherman it was dubbed the secret bait. When I decided to sell the RONZ to bait & tackle dealers the commercial fishermen were quite upset. They knew the secret bait wouldn't be a secret anymore. I tried to console them with the fact that they did not have to lie about what bait they were using anymore. All I received in reply was a look of disappointment, as if I had betrayed them. I didn't have a name on the RONZ back then, but it did have a few nicknames. The secret bait was the first, then it was the Penetrator for a online tackle company in N.Y. They quickly realized that customers were very unhappy about the pop-up advertisements they were receiving after using the search engines to find the penetrator. The wife wasn't too crazy about that name either. Then there was a group of fishermen from R.I. that called it the holy grail. I kind of liked that one. But then I received a phone call from a priest that fished who told me how wonderful my baits are and how he catches fish like crazy with them, but felt I should not call it the Holy Grail. I explained to him the name was not my doing and I would consider his request. That was about the time the secret bait was officially named the RONZ.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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12-28-2009, 10:33 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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12-28-2009, 09:56 AM
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Fishin' Fool
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Rhody
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I'll have to remember never to post a pic of rubber in December.
This thread is proof that we fishermen are a crazy bunch 
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