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01-15-2010, 10:30 AM
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Rush and Pat Robertson
 
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Rush: talk about trying to politicize a disaster
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Just %$%$%$%$ing nuts...
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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01-15-2010, 10:40 AM
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why? are they blaming Bush and Cheney or the failure of the recent Global Warming Summit for the disaster?
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01-15-2010, 11:09 AM
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LIMBAUGH: Yes, I think in the Haiti earthquake, ladies and gentlemen -- in the words of Rahm Emanuel, we have another crisis simply too good to waste. This will play right into Obama's hands -- humanitarian, compassionate. They'll use this to burnish their -- shall we say -- credibility with the black community, in the both light-skinned and dark-skinned black community, in this country. It's made-to-order for 'em. That's why he couldn't wait to get out there. Could not wait to get out there."
Pat Robertson
"And you know Kristi, something happened a long time ago in Haiti and people might not want to talk about it. They were under the heel of the French, uh you know Napoleon the third and whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the Devil. They said we will serve you if you'll get us free from the French. True Story. And so the Devil said "OK, it's a deal." And they kicked the French out. You know, the Haitians revolted and got themselves free. But ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other, desperately poor. That island is Hispaniola is one island. It's cut down the middle. On one side is Haiti, on the other side is the Dominican republic. Dominican Republic is prosperous, healthy, full of resorts, etc.. Haiti is in desperate poverty. Same island. Uh, they need to have, and we need to pray for them, a great turning to God and out of this tragedy. I'm optimistic something good may come."
The US did a lot of good during the Tsunami recovery, and was one of the post 9/11 high points of the Bush Administration. They didn't politicize that, and the present administration is not politicizing this one, at least not yet.
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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01-15-2010, 06:31 PM
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Rush is simply a porn merchant, and Robertson I'd have to agree has lost a few marbles.
It's really scary to think how much influence Rush has over the Republican party.
-spence
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01-15-2010, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Rush is simply a porn merchant, and Robertson I'd have to agree has lost a few marbles.
It's really scary to think how much influence Rush has over the Republican party.
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After not listening to Rush for a couple of years, I've tuned in to his show the past three days. He sounded like the same Rush from the past. Neither then, nor now, have I heard him peddle porn. Perhaps I just missed it. Maybe in the past couple of years that I wasn't listening he was getting down and dirty, and he just took a break the past three days.
I recall you saying something to the effect that he was a whore because he made a lot of money for his employers. Is that what you mean by porn?
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01-17-2010, 11:06 AM
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After not listening to Rush for a couple of years, I've tuned in to his show the past three days. He sounded like the same Rush from the past. Neither then, nor now, have I heard him peddle porn. Perhaps I just missed it. Maybe in the past couple of years that I wasn't listening he was getting down and dirty, and he just took a break the past three days.
I recall you saying something to the effect that he was a whore because he made a lot of money for his employers. Is that what you mean by porn?
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He certainly has gotten worse, he's always been acerbic, politically incorrect and full of ego, that's part of his game, but there's a meanness that I don't remember when I used to listen. And I listened for years.
As to the porn, it's not about making money, it's about how you earn it.
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01-17-2010, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
He certainly has gotten worse, he's always been acerbic, politically incorrect and full of ego, that's part of his game, but there's a meanness that I don't remember when I used to listen. And I listened for years.
As to the porn, it's not about making money, it's about how you earn it.
-spence
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I think he mellowed when he was on the pain killer (oxycotton?). Drugs that numb pain tend to lighten your mood and dull your perceptions and reactions. He was much "nicer" during that period. When he was outed and forced to quit, I'm sure that his senses kicked in to a sharper, quicker, and less "tolerant" reactive state. You might perceive that as "meanness." "Some might" perceive it as not brooking ignorance. In any case, whether he is "mean" or nice is not relevant to whether he is right or wrong, a whore or a virgin.
Have you come upon a new definition or usage of "porn"? Or do you just get sexually aroused when you listen to Rush?
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01-15-2010, 08:19 PM
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Rush is simply a porn merchant, and Robertson I'd have to agree has lost a few marbles.
It's really scary to think how much influence Rush has over the Republican party.
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Rush has lost alot of his listeners. I can't stand listening to him. He's more something the left would like to hang around the neck of all Republicans. Kind of a decoy while they stick the knife in your kids back.
How bad can it be down there? Hell their Special Envoy is campagning in Mass!
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01-15-2010, 08:26 PM
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Pat Robertson is still the same idiot he always was. My only question is where does he find anyone to listen to him. I remember the comment he made after 911 " it happened because of loose morels..." That was so long ago, you cannot blame it on dementia. My heart goes out for the Haitians along with some of my money. We are so lucky to be here, Rush and Pat should do something to directly help them or keep out and let real patriots do it.
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01-15-2010, 08:50 PM
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it appears as though the "scientific community"(Rock) is now tuning into Rush and watching the 700 Club...maybe they're(he's) looking for someone new to follow after the complete collapse of that whole Global Warming/Climate Change debacle 
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01-22-2010, 03:07 PM
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it appears as though the "scientific community"(Rock) is now tuning into Rush and watching the 700 Club...maybe they're(he's) looking for someone new to follow after the complete collapse of that whole Global Warming/Climate Change debacle 
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NASA: Last decade was warmest ever - CNN.com
Last decade was the warmest on record.
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01-22-2010, 04:10 PM
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01-22-2010, 07:26 PM
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If you do happen to believe in human induce climate change, this is actually a really bad thing, because it could mass the effects we have w/ CO2 and then when sunspots go back to normal.... 
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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01-15-2010, 10:08 PM
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Racism. will it never end. I am so damm sick of it. White, black, muslim ,jew etc.. How can man do great things, go to the moon or paint the Sistine Chapel, still insist on judging people not by there words or deeds but by the color of their skin. Are we never going to get past this?
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01-15-2010, 10:57 PM
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And you guys continue to listen to them much less give any credence to anything they have to say? If people would just stop listening to them they will go away!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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01-16-2010, 06:03 AM
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Racism. will it never end. I am so damm sick of it. White, black, muslim ,jew etc.. How can man do great things, go to the moon or paint the Sistine Chapel, still insist on judging people not by there words or deeds but by the color of their skin. Are we never going to get past this?
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I don't know, maybe you should ask Obama, Harry Reid, Bill Clinton and oh..don't forget Jimmy Carter since you mentioned Jews....
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01-17-2010, 03:52 AM
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I don't know, maybe you should ask...Harry Reid....
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Harry Reid could have articulated his point better. What a lot of critics are misundestanding is that it's not so much what is said, but how it's said. The word "negro" is a hell of an anachronism. Given the context (as a democrat), to refer to American black vernacular as a "dialect" is a little careless. But I think he was alluding to an unsung reality that blacks who "make it" often have to live in two worlds. It is very complicated but those that can do that, are the blacks that have better chance of being president. Harry should have put his construction better. Otherwise, he just sounds like another dumb white man. I never liked Harry and all his hyperbole anyway.
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01-17-2010, 07:09 AM
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Harry Reid could have articulated his point better. What a lot of critics are misundestanding is that it's not so much what is said, but how it's said. The word "negro" is a hell of an anachronism. Given the context (as a democrat), to refer to American black vernacular as a "dialect" is a little careless. But I think he was alluding to an unsung reality that blacks who "make it" often have to live in two worlds. It is very complicated but those that can do that, are the blacks that have better chance of being president. Harry should have put his construction better. Otherwise, he just sounds like another dumb white man. I never liked Harry and all his hyperbole anyway.
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I guess you could try to rationalize it that way....
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01-17-2010, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
Harry Reid could have articulated his point better. What a lot of critics are misundestanding is that it's not so much what is said, but how it's said. The word "negro" is a hell of an anachronism. Given the context (as a democrat), to refer to American black vernacular as a "dialect" is a little careless. But I think he was alluding to an unsung reality that blacks who "make it" often have to live in two worlds. It is very complicated but those that can do that, are the blacks that have better chance of being president. Harry should have put his construction better. Otherwise, he just sounds like another dumb white man. I never liked Harry and all his hyperbole anyway.
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My folks aren't the slightest bit racist but I cring every time they refer to blacks as "colored"
Different times now. Reid is just old school. and perhaps not very bright.
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01-17-2010, 10:32 AM
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My folks aren't the slightest bit racist but I cring every time they refer to blacks as "colored"
Different times now. Reid is just old school. and perhaps not very bright.
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maybe they are members/suporters of the NAA"C"P ?
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01-19-2010, 11:29 AM
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Harry Reid could have articulated his point better. What a lot of critics are misundestanding is that it's not so much what is said, but how it's said. .
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Funny, because when Trent Lott and Imus said something racially stupid, no one talked about how it was said, or the context in which it was said. All anybody talked about was specifically what was said.
Democrats, it seems, can say racist things and use "context" as a shield from ramifications. Conservatives don't seem to be given that courtesy.
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01-19-2010, 09:34 PM
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Funny, because when Trent Lott and Imus said something racially stupid, no one talked about how it was said, or the context in which it was said. All anybody talked about was specifically what was said.
Democrats, it seems, can say racist things and use "context" as a shield from ramifications. Conservatives don't seem to be given that courtesy.
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I don't know that Trent Lott's endorsement that segregation would have served the country better is exactly the same thing. What are you asking that I read from that? It's a fairly racist thing to say, but he's from Mississippi with all its historically racial peculiarities. And referring to any woman as ho does not need context, its just disrespectful - black rapper or white talk show radio host.
Harry Reid certainly said something "racially stupid" and demeaning. And he apologized, just like Imus and Lott. But it does not change that the most successful national black politicians, are those that have command over their "blackness". They can turn it off, and then turn it on. Obama has a pretty good handle over this. In colonial New Orleans, light skinned blacks were practically treated as a separate class from the thousands of black Africans arriving on auction blocks. Light skinned blacks, on the plantation house, during those days, were the buffer between masters and black field hand masses. It was in the master's security interest to have a light skinned black who could cross that line into the field and, if not carry out the master's will, inform him of the goings on. There are reams of literature on this subject. Perhaps this will shed a little light on the historical appeal of the "light-skinned negro."
And Harry Reid, in all his chump splendor, recognizes this, even if it is through his own datedly racist veil. Personally, I'd like to see him go.
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01-20-2010, 02:26 PM
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Funny, because when Trent Lott and Imus said something racially stupid, no one talked about how it was said, or the context in which it was said. All anybody talked about was specifically what was said.
Democrats, it seems, can say racist things and use "context" as a shield from ramifications. Conservatives don't seem to be given that courtesy.
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Public forum vs. private conversation.
Nappy-headed hoes vs. older person saying negro
Publicly supporting a racial segregationist vs. stating his race will be an advantage
Racist vs. Realist
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01-17-2010, 03:06 AM
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Racism. will it never end. I am so damm sick of it. White, black, muslim ,jew etc.. How can man do great things, go to the moon or paint the Sistine Chapel, still insist on judging people not by there words or deeds but by the color of their skin. Are we never going to get past this?
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I can dig it, what you say writes well.
But this Limbaugh hogwash is about money. And race stuff is talk radio gold. That Rush is an oaf, a fathead, and often his logic is as sharpened as the cysts on his arse, makes it all the more provocative. He has parlayed all of these qualities into a very lucrative talk show personality.
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01-17-2010, 10:05 AM
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But this Limbaugh hogwash is about money. And race stuff is talk radio gold. That Rush is an oaf, a fathead, and often his logic is as sharpened as the cysts on his arse, makes it all the more provocative. He has parlayed all of these qualities into a very lucrative talk show personality.
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Too bad Rush isn't doing his stuff for free like all those other radio . . . er . . .those other tv . . . er . . .those other movie . . . er . . . those politicians . . . er . . . like all those other great folks who are doing their stuff for free. Then, we might believe in his sincerity. Might pay a little critical attention to some of what he says.
But, since all he ever does is talk racist, oafish, fathead, cystically illogical stuff, that's why he makes a ton of money. And making all that money, of course, thoroughly discredits him.
And, of course, the millions that listen are oafish, fathead, illogical, racist retards.
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01-18-2010, 01:23 AM
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01-18-2010, 10:50 AM
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01-18-2010, 04:33 PM
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I like the old Rush like 2112, the new stuff sucked.
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01-19-2010, 12:28 PM
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he da Raz berry man 
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