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02-25-2010, 10:29 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Anyone had a problem with speeding boats in the canal
Many times in the last several years, mostly during daylight hours, I have seen or been annoyed by boats going to fast fast. By this I mean pleasure craft, not freight carrying, work type vessels, like barges.
Several times I have even watched as two and three boats would go by actually racing, trying to overtake, one another. This occurred during especially heavy traffic on weekends. Sometimes it boggles my mind, and that doesn't take much nowadays, how selfish people are driving their boats through the canal oblivious to what is the appropriate speed.
I am not talking about the one boat that goes by at 4:30 a.m. quick as a rabbit. Because the faster he gets out of the way the sooner a hookup might happen.
And I never see any body told to slow down. I wrote a Paul Gaureau, of the Army Corps of Engineers, and he was very kind to reply. He said many citations are given out every year.
Maybe I am being petty. The following is Mr. Gareau's reply:
In reply to your observation regarding speeding in the Canal, Section 207.20(j) of the regulations states that all vessels are directed to pass mooring and boat basin facilities, the state pier (fish pier), ESCO Terminal and all floating plants engaged in maintenance of the waterway at a minimum speed consistent with safe navigation. A specific speed is not listed which allows the master/operator of a vessel to exercise discretion and determine the best speed based on prevailing conditions. Additionally, the prescribed running times are intended to control the destructive effects of excessive wake and to provide for the safety of all vessels navigating within the waterway.
Every vessel leaves a wake regardless of the speed of advance. I am going to assume that your statement regarding the no wake rule refers to "excessive wake" within the limits of the Canal. This is also subjective and dependent on prevailing conditions. What Traffic Controllers and Patrol Boat Operators are concerned with are vessel wakes that may cause significant bank erosion and are dangerous to other vessels, particularly small recreational vessels.
Over time, large wakes that cause breaking waves on the banks of the Canal erode the sand behind the protective granite rip-rap, which in turn causes the rip-rap to slide down and out of position. When this occurs, significant bank erosion can and will occur, which requires expensive maintenance and repairs.
In addition to the regulation listed above, the Canal Manager is authorized to prescribe rules governing the movement of vessels using the waterway. There are signs posted at several locations throughout the Canal (on the Bourne/Sagamore bridge abutments for example) notifying vessels of a 10 mile-per-hour (8.5 knots) speed limit and minimum wake requirement.
That said, we know that there are vessels that do not adhere to the regulations. I know that it is frustrating for citizens and law abiding boat operators to see those that have no concern for the regulations. Our boat operators are doing the best that they can to get people to comply with the regulations, numerous tickets are written each year. Boat operators also know where (and when) our boats are tied up and generally maintain the proper speed when coming by us.
I thank you for expressing your concern and state that the same laws are still in place and our boat operators and Marine Traffic Controllers still try to enforce them.
Thank you,
Paul Gaudreau
Last edited by Swimmer; 02-25-2010 at 12:17 PM..
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
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02-25-2010, 10:32 AM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
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There is a sign posted 10mph speed limit on the train bridge.
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02-25-2010, 11:02 AM
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When you are doing 10mph with the current you look pretty fast.
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02-25-2010, 11:22 AM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
When you are doing 10mph with the current you look pretty fast.
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If your speedometer is reading 10mph riding into the full current you are probably going backwards!
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02-25-2010, 11:25 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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I would be more upset if they were doing so 20-30feet from shore, but it does boggle the mind that these speed demons do this.
I only wish they would get caught at least once to see what happens when they do get caught. $$=bye-bye.
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02-25-2010, 12:52 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cape Cod, MA
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I have an 18.6 CC boat and have travelled through the canal about 6 times in it. I will say it is very difficult for me to keep the speedometer at 10mph. I usually will try and find the slowest speed possible for me in order to stay up on plane which is usually around 17mph. Most likely you are talking about the guys with twin engines doing 30+mph, but just wanted you to know it can be tough especially in a smaller boat to adhere exactly to the 10mph speed limit.
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02-25-2010, 05:51 PM
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Ruled only by the tide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Truro
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PRBuzz
There is a sign posted 10mph speed limit on the train bridge.
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10 knots against a 7 knot current would barely be headway. But 10 mph against a 7 knot current would almost appear to someone on shore as a boat doing 17 mph as judged by its wake.
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Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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02-27-2010, 07:45 PM
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The lobster boats hug the wall to avoid the rips in the middle of the east end - most of the guys don't feel like getting their asses kicked on the way to work.
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02-28-2010, 07:04 PM
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zziplex lover
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: upper cape cod, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big jay
The lobster boats hug the wall to avoid the rips in the middle of the east end - most of the guys don't feel like getting their asses kicked on the way to work.
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Very good point........
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02-28-2010, 10:08 AM
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Registered User
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Location: Lincoln, RI
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The current on the sides is generally slower than the current in the middle, so displacement boats use less fuel and easier on some motors working against the tide by hugging the bank. It's a balancing act though, because a little too close and they'll get sucked into it.
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Best regards,
Roger
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02-28-2010, 07:14 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger
The current on the sides is generally slower than the current in the middle, so displacement boats use less fuel and easier on some motors working against the tide by hugging the bank. It's a balancing act though, because a little too close and they'll get sucked into it.
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About three one morning I observe a rather large vessel, maybe 300-350' long working east against the tide. I was fishing land side of the canal. I';m looking at this boat, and I'm looking at this boat, and I'm looking at this boat and friekin coming right at me. I'm thinking that I'm big enough to see on radar almost or the capatin is alseep. At the last minute the vessel veers to the right, port or starboard I don't know, to the right. And turns back into the main current. I leave most of my stuff on the banking that time of the morning anyway, good thing. If I had a belly board I could have road tht wake all the way to Scusset. I got a soaking. Now I know why some of the boats come so close to the side of the canal. At least the big ones. At that time of the morning there is nothing else around.
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