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04-22-2010, 05:05 AM
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woody
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Port St Lucie Fla.
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Potomac River Filled With Inter sex Fish
Potomac River Filled With Inter sex Fish
An alarming new study finds that more than 80 percent of the male bass fish swimming in Washington's Potomac River exhibit both male and female sex characteristics, the Guardian reports. In addition to having testes, many male bass have also begun producing eggs, which researchers chalk up to the "toxic stew" of weird chemicals being dumped in the river. While part of the contamination comes from agricultural runoff, the Potomac Conservancy study found that birth control, prescription drugs, and other chemically enhanced products were also contributing to piscine sexual confusion. This isn't just limited to the Potomac, either: A similar study conducted in 2009 revealed that out of 111 sites tested nationwide, roughly a third contained intersex fish.
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04-22-2010, 06:10 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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Which is why I make sure my waders don't leak.....it's either that or move to Franklin.
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04-22-2010, 06:30 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Warwick
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Scary stuff. the ocean water can't be far behind with all the crap idiots throw in it.
I also avoid eating FW fish except for the ocasional stocked trout.
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04-22-2010, 08:04 AM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Which is why I make sure my waders don't leak.....it's either that or move to Franklin.
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there are no fish in Franklin....especially inter-sex fish
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04-22-2010, 08:07 AM
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Hunting for a 40
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: RI
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Gives new meaning to "Go F**** yourself"
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04-22-2010, 08:38 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Woody - do we have a link to the regular article?
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04-22-2010, 08:58 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
Posts: 18,203
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No Wonder fish Mortality is high....they can actually nag themselves to death.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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04-22-2010, 09:24 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cumberland, RI
Posts: 2,264
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
No Wonder fish Mortality is high....they can actually nag themselves to death.
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Thanks, now my keyboard is soaked!
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Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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04-22-2010, 09:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
Posts: 4,152
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
No Wonder fish Mortality is high....they can actually nag themselves to death.
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...every 28 days 
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04-22-2010, 08:34 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FishermanTim
...every 28 days 
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Until The Change- Mine now gets it about every 2 weeks or so.
:-(
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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04-23-2010, 07:50 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodyCT
Until The Change- Mine now gets it about every 2 weeks or so.
:-(
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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A source of NAGGING or finding FAULT with something your other half is doing or NOT doing is a Lack of VITAMIN F
Oh you never heard of vitamin F .... that's because
it's really Chlorophyl so make it a point to take your WIFE
out for salads real often ...or make the suggestion that you feel like a big robust SALAD tonight and you do the shopping
WHY the hell do you think i grow salad for my JOB 
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04-22-2010, 05:00 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 4 hours from my favorite place
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
No Wonder fish Mortality is high....they can actually nag themselves to death.
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oh VERY funny.......

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Simplify.......
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04-23-2010, 05:16 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenn
oh VERY funny.......

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04-23-2010, 11:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,939
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
No Wonder fish Mortality is high....they can actually nag themselves to death.
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Makes sense to me. Very good one 
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04-22-2010, 11:56 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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its sad that things are so f-ed up these days that this is even believable... Link or it isnt true woody.. if it is true, Im taking up scup fishing
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04-22-2010, 12:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 60
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Maybe he meant the dreaded seabass....there are many fish that have both characteristics..but I doubt very much that there is a chemical that changes the actual dna of a living fish..
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04-22-2010, 12:35 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
No Wonder fish Mortality is high....they can actually nag themselves to death.
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One of the funniest things I've seen all month
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sashamy
Maybe he meant the dreaded seabass....there are many fish that have both characteristics..but I doubt very much that there is a chemical that changes the actual dna of a living fish..
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Supposedly (and as mentioned above) the chemicals and hormones from birth control in the water is leading to this - I've heard & read this before - not sure on how true it is.
links that talk about small mouth bass:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...cals-fish-eggs
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=6082152
Last edited by JohnR; 04-22-2010 at 12:40 PM..
Reason: updated with links
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04-22-2010, 12:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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I'm surprised that with all the drugs that get "disposed of" by flushing, that these fish can do anything.
Let's see, they can't get depressed, won't have trouble sleeping, they won't have any intestinal issues, no heartburn, high blood pressure, cholesterol, bloating, water retention, mood swings or ANY irrectile dysfunction at all!
Heck, I doubt that they can feel anything at all!
Pretty soon you can skip going to the pharamcist and just go fishing instead.
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04-22-2010, 04:57 PM
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woody
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Port St Lucie Fla.
Posts: 1,062
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You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a
Clipboard.
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04-22-2010, 06:59 PM
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Work hard. Fish harder.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 764
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I just read the article. Genetic mutation induced via chemicals. Not good.
The sentence that floored me was: "About 5 million people live in the greater Washington area, and 90% of them get their drinking water from the Potomac." I wonder what the effect of these chemicals will be on humans. It could make filling out applications that only have M or F check boxes difficult.
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04-23-2010, 06:58 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish360
"About 5 million people live in the greater Washington area, and 90% of them get their drinking water from the Potomac." I wonder what the effect of these chemicals will be on humans.
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Have you seen how inept government has been for the last 20 years?
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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04-23-2010, 06:04 PM
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Work hard. Fish harder.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 764
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Have you seen how inept government has been for the last 20 years?
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Good point!
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04-24-2010, 01:21 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish360
I just read the article. Genetic mutation induced via chemicals. Not good.
The sentence that floored me was: "About 5 million people live in the greater Washington area, and 90% of them get their drinking water from the Potomac." I wonder what the effect of these chemicals will be on humans. It could make filling out applications that only have M or F check boxes difficult.
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Hey, if you really want to drink something that's gonna make you grow a vagina, order a wine cooler...
Gotta give Bill Maher credit for that one... 
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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04-24-2010, 04:27 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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the real drug problem
this is yet another example of the real drug problem
we have here in the United States
The PILL pushers have all the Doctors excepting nice
Bonuses for being the prescriber's for all their fancy drugs.
The REPS have our Govermental officials eating out of their Hands.
There are people scouring the earth 24/7 looking for new species
of plant and animal in every country in the world and in every body of water trying to find that latest and greatest new magic FIX compund that can be synthasized and commercialized and programmed into our heads
via are oversized High definition Televisions.
The prices for these drugs are sometimes astronomical and the younger generation are having PILL parties where they reach into
a large bowl and sight unseen pop a prescription drug to get high.
( this is "WHY" people are flushing pills so regularly to dispose of them)
Then they (our kids) also consume ALCOHOL to increase the effect when it clearly states on the paperwork (do NOT take these when consuming alcohol ) Of course they (our kids) are not reading the paperwork in ULTRA FINE print
Now it might be a classic Cliche'
But in reality.... PILLS (and texting) are the ASSASINS of Youth.
they are also the sexually transgendering detrimental substances
to fish.
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04-23-2010, 09:12 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chatham, MA
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these have to resident largemouths I think. DC WASA is the process of a huge overhaul to its sewer system. They are trying to lower the overflow by a drastic amount which would be awesome. The overflow occurs when significant rain/snow goes down stormdrains and overwhelms the system. This happens about 60 times a year. During these events the water level is too much for the system and the overflow has to go to the river or flood the streets/back up into houses. Currently this happens about 60 times a year and WASA's trying to reduce it 2 times a year in the next ten years which would be pretty good. It sucks that these overflows occur but the alternative is to have the storm drains go directly to the river which would put all the petroleum runoff in the water as well as ice melting chemical and all the other crap every time it rains. So hopefully the new changes will improve things.
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04-23-2010, 10:50 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanstaal
Potomac River Filled With Inter sex Fish
An alarming new study finds that more than 80 percent of the male bass fish swimming in Washington's Potomac River exhibit both male and female sex characteristics, the Guardian reports. In addition to having testes, many male bass have also begun producing eggs, which researchers chalk up to the "toxic stew" of weird chemicals being dumped in the river. While part of the contamination comes from agricultural runoff, the Potomac Conservancy study found that birth control, prescription drugs, and other chemically enhanced products were also contributing to piscine sexual confusion. This isn't just limited to the Potomac, either: A similar study conducted in 2009 revealed that out of 111 sites tested nationwide, roughly a third contained intersex fish.
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They must have visited Massachusetts once too often.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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04-24-2010, 03:58 PM
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See you at the beach.
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Vero Beach FL. Bradford, RI.
Posts: 3,781
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Although the study is true, I believe this is an attention grab by the Potomac Organization, I cannot find the 80% figure anywhere in the original document.
i believe this organization has jumped on this study to raise funds or awareness for the organization itself. good cause but also over exagerrated
Link- http://www.cerc.usgs.gov/Content/Upl...sex-09-rev.pdf
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04-24-2010, 05:10 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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well
you might have a point there WHD except a similar finding was found just outside Las Vegas not long ago suggesting that this is a wide spread phenomenon.
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