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05-25-2010, 01:11 PM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
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Tuna Regs Update
Hello BBGFC Members and Friends!
Yesterday, there was a conference call for NMFS HMS Advisory Panel Members to discuss the Angling Category Bluefin Tuna Management options. The options up for consideration and discussion are below:
A. 1 school or large school BFT (1 BFT 27-59”) per day for all
B. 1 school BFT (27-47”) and 1 large BFT (47-59”) per day for all
C. Option A for private vessels and Option B for charter vessels
You will notice there is no option for small medium BFT (59-73”) as the 2010 Recreational sub quota appears to have already been landed in North Carolina. Further, the 2010 large medium/giant Angling Category sub quota appears to have been landed as well.
In approximately two weeks, the NMFS HMS Division expects to take an in season action and although it’s not in writing yet, it appears that there will be NO retention of small medium BFT (59-73”) and NO retention of medium/giant BFT (73” and larger) after that date for the remainder of 2010.
Looks pretty dim to me.
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05-25-2010, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2001
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Thanks for the update! Any mention of the General category or charter category (commercial) limits?
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05-25-2010, 02:48 PM
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Think we'll see fish in that size range? Debating if its worth it to even fish them this year. Was going to load up on sea pups and wind ons but not sure now.
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05-25-2010, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
Thanks for the update! Any mention of the General category or charter category (commercial) limits?
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Option B for the charter boats.
CCKid there are plenty of fish that will fit that slot limit out there. We saw plenty last year and the southern reaches were filthy with the next class of fish. Fish them and enjoy their majesty because we may not get the opportunity in the real near future.
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05-25-2010, 03:33 PM
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BTW Sandman that Mirage is why I go to work eveyday; to own one someday. Absolutely awesome and 99.9% of the board readers don't have a clue about the vessel and its capabilities you have. Lucky dog. Have a killer season.
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05-25-2010, 04:16 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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That's reasonable, and its not going to put anyone out of business (it won't be good, but it is liveable). If the science says we're knocking the sh*t out of that year class (and I believe we have been) and we need to back off - then we do what's right for the fishery.
As for availabily of the slot limit fish - there are plenty. I really think the idea that there weren't any out there under 60+ inches was just repeated over and over on the internet by alot of people that don't actually fish - I saw PLENTY.
While I'm on my soapbox - as far as the 27-47's go -if anyone thinks its a good idea to kill a tuna smaller than a keeper bass - they should be ashamed.
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05-25-2010, 04:20 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mansfield
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General is being lowered to 2 fish a day I think.
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05-25-2010, 06:58 PM
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chathamblue30
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Middleboro Ma
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Thanks for the info Matt !
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05-25-2010, 10:35 PM
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Get off my Rock
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Mansfield
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Looks like if we want to eat some of my tuna cakes we better head to the south side, plenty of 40-48" fish down there last year.
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05-26-2010, 05:38 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: East Prov RI
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There were schools of smalls on the bank and jeffries last year along with the east of cape. We nailed a 45" on the bank.
As long as they don't totally close it down, catch and release would be fine with me.
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05-26-2010, 03:55 PM
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Ruled only by the tide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Truro
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I think the areas I fish (Peaked Hill and SW Corner) won't be seeing many fish under 59". No tuna on the table this year.
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Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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05-26-2010, 09:12 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweetwater
I think the areas I fish (Peaked Hill and SW Corner) won't be seeing many fish under 59". No tuna on the table this year.
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Oct/Nov last year had lots of fish in that class on both those spots. And there were a ton of them down the backside. Fishing ledge had serious #'s of 60-80 lb fish the entire month of october - and for 6 weeks (oct - nov) every afternoon there were 50-60 lbers chasing 1/2 beaks at the 1 cc bouy. One day at the end of Sept there were literally small fish busting bait as far east as I could see.
There will be plenty of fish for the table.
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05-27-2010, 02:42 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Gloucester, MA
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Through the greapevine
General category bag limit (comm.) change went through today. 3 fish/day 73" or larger starting on June 1. We should see it posted tomorrow.
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05-27-2010, 03:11 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
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This is the latest news I got today from a freind.......................standby, rumor has it this very well may change in a couple weeks.
Below is the latest tuna regulations.
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Recreational Atlantic Tunas Retention Limits
The recreational daily bluefin tuna (BFT) retention for limit for HMS Angling and HMS Charter/Headboat vessels (while fishing recreationally) is 1 BFT/vessel/day/trip, measuring 27 to less than 73" CFL. These BFT retention limits are effective for all areas, except for the Gulf of Mexico. The Gulf of Mexico is designated as a spawning grounds for BFT and therefore NMFS does not allow vessels, commercial or recreational, to target BFT while fishing in this area. However, HMS Angling and HMS Charter/Heaboats are eligible to retain 1 BFT (73 inches or greater) per vessel per year as a "trophy" fish for the boat. This fish may be retained in the Gulf of Mexico if it is caught incidentally while pursuing other species. The recreational yellowfin tuna daily retention limit is 3 yellowfin/person/day/trip. The minimum size for yellowfin and bigeye tuna is 27" curved fork length. There are no recreational limits for bigeye, skipjack or albacore tunas.
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(no tuna sales in the General category until Tuesday June 1.- Tom K)
Coastwide General Category BFT Fishery will reopen on 6/1/10
The coastwide General category BFT fishery closed at 11:59 p.m. on January 31, 2010. The fishery will reopen on June 1.
(the default position until the new rules for the general category come out would be 1 fish per day 73 inches and over could be sold. - Tom K)
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05-27-2010, 06:54 PM
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Ruled only by the tide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Truro
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big jay
Oct/Nov last year had lots of fish in that class on both those spots. And there were a ton of them down the backside. Fishing ledge had serious #'s of 60-80 lb fish the entire month of october - and for 6 weeks (oct - nov) every afternoon there were 50-60 lbers chasing 1/2 beaks at the 1 cc bouy. One day at the end of Sept there were literally small fish busting bait as far east as I could see.
There will be plenty of fish for the table.
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Good to hear big jay...you made my day
All I know is that we did not hook a single fish under 55" last year.
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Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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05-28-2010, 02:12 PM
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Ruled only by the tide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Truro
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New tuna regs for recreational for June 1 through August 31, 2010 are 1 fish per boat per day 27" to under 73". So for now, the rec's can keep a fish, but this could change.
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Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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05-26-2010, 06:34 PM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
Posts: 6,414
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At least the NMFS HMS permit site had updated the date of information from 1/29/2010 to 5/2/2010:
News
last updated: 5/2/2010
2010 Recreational Atlantic Tunas Retention Limits
The current recreational daily bluefin tuna (BFT) retention for limit for HMS Angling and HMS Charter/Headboat vessels (while fishing recreationally) is 1 BFT/vessel/day/trip, measuring 27 to less than 73" CFL. These BFT retention limits are effective for all areas, except for the Gulf of Mexico. The Gulf of Mexico is designated as a spawning grounds for BFT and therefore NMFS does not allow vessels, commercial or recreational, to target BFT while fishing in this area. However, HMS Angling and HMS Charter/Heaboats are eligible to retain 1 BFT (73 inches or greater) per vessel per year as a “trophy” fish for the boat. This fish may be retained in the Gulf of Mexico if it is caught incidentally while pursuing other species. The recreational yellowfin tuna daily retention limit is 3 yellowfin/person/day/trip. The minimum size for yellowfin and bigeye tuna is 27" curved fork length. There are no recreational limits for bigeye, skipjack or albacore tunas.
Coastwide General Category BFT Fishery will reopen on 6/1/10
The fishery will reopen on June 1. Stay tuned as bag limits will be announced shortly.
https://hmspermits.noaa.gov/news.asp
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05-26-2010, 06:45 PM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
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PR Buzz,
The info I posted came out less than 72 hours ago. That is the most recent update. The current regs until posted are 27-72" for anglers.
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05-26-2010, 07:57 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
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If option A for private vessels and option B for charter vessels turns out to be the regs I'm good with that.
Any rec who says it's unfair, look at the charts, the private vessels take FAR more fish.
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