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03-05-2003, 10:43 AM
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Could We Transplant A Few Of These Up To The Cape?
Killer whales munch seals, save salmon
SEATTLE, Washington (Reuters) --Endangered Seattle salmon are breathing more easily after a traveling troupe of killer whales took a big bite out of the area's harbor seal population during a two-month feeding binge, wildlife experts say.
Distraught seals huddling on shore in Hood Canal near Bremerton, Washington, are safe to go back in the water, though perhaps half of their friends will not be there, having been chomped down by 13 whales, which have finally left town.
"At the end of last week the seals were up on the bank quivering," said Steve Jeffries, a marine mammal biologist at the Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife. "This was a perfect place to be a killer whale, probably a bad spot if you happened to be a harbor seal."
The killer whales, or orcas, were likely drawn by the ample supply of some 1,500 Hood Canal seals, growing as large as 250 pounds (114 kg) on a steady diet of 200 salmon a day.
The seals added to the strain on local salmon runs already depleted by pollution, habitat loss, fishing and hydroelectric dams interrupting their lengthy river migrations.
The visiting transient whales, which can grow to as large as 10 tons, have thinned out the herd, giving salmon a better chance to get past the voracious seals when they leave the ocean and head back upstream to spawn in the fall.
"It will probably benefit salmon runs in the short term and in the long run we expect the seal population to recover. This is probably just a natural cycle," Jeffries said, adding that the seal population in surrounding waters is about 30,000, up from 7,000 or so 30 years ago.
The striking black-and-white orcas are a cousin of the popular resident orcas, which eat salmon in the waters off the Pacific Coast from Washington to Alaska. They too have declined in numbers in recent years.
Transient orcas eat mammals like gray whale calves and California sea lions and even some birds. The visitors will likely head north next, except for one orca that typically migrates southward to California, Jeffries said.
"From everything we can tell, they were just in there doing their normal, transient foraging behavior," he added.
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03-05-2003, 10:52 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Maybe the folks at the NE Aquarium will put killer whales raised in captivity with seals and see if they get along  ...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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03-05-2003, 01:49 PM
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Killer whales on the bakeside of the cape? It would make wading a little hairier. My father keeps joking that one of these nights a killer whale is going to slide up on the beach and grab me like we've seen them do to seals in the nature shows. But sure would be nice to have something thin out the seals, especially at Chatham and Nauset Inlets. Wether it be Mr. Whale, Mr. Shark, or Mr. Winchester. 
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03-05-2003, 02:22 PM
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Location: Bedford, NH
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Don't forget the mouth of the Merrimack. I'd be up for live-lining a couple seals.
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03-05-2003, 02:31 PM
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Keep The Change
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Road to Serfdom
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BAD BAD PEOPLE, Seals are our firends they are so cute and cuddly we can't hurt them or let the horrible wales and sharks eat them either.......................................
NOT!!!
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03-05-2003, 02:34 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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But if all the seals in Mass waters are gone - what's Slip going to catch ? 
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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03-05-2003, 03:05 PM
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DDG-51
Join Date: Mar 2002
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I like livelining duxbury beach piping plovers for my early spring seals around brant rock. 
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03-05-2003, 03:27 PM
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I love piping plover. Tastes just like Bald Eagle.
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03-05-2003, 07:17 PM
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Rocket Launcher
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: cape cod canal
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Hmmm
A new species of surf fish

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Two Changes and It's Legal
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03-05-2003, 08:06 PM
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None
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Location: Newton, MA
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i never have encountered a live seal. what should i do when confronting a seal? i don't see them in cape cod like buzzard bay or falmouth. damn, i miss falmouth.
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03-06-2003, 02:04 AM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Notaro...
..stay away from this type of Dolphin...

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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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03-06-2003, 05:58 AM
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Bass Whacker
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: NJ
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Quote:
Originally posted by Notaro
i never have encountered a live seal. what should i do when confronting a seal? i don't see them in cape cod like buzzard bay or falmouth. damn, i miss falmouth.
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When encountering a seal, first remain calm, U dont want to startle it. Next thing U wanna do is make eye contact with it, let it know that you're the boss. When he looks directly at you, start flapping your arms like a giant bird, that will send him running for the water  . Remember, U heard it here first!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
August 29--a date that lives in striper infamy.
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03-06-2003, 07:18 AM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
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seals an kayacs 
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BOAT fish do count.
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03-06-2003, 10:07 AM
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None
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Location: Newton, MA
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very funny, man. are they dangerous? it depends on what kind of seals we are facing.
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03-06-2003, 12:05 PM
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Seals have nasty teeth like dogs. How you think they chomp down stripers? If you encounter one, stay away. They are Federally protected. Even poking one with a stick could end you up in the federal clink. You wouldn't want to go to jail for ten years with a bunch of killers for poking seal.
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03-06-2003, 12:09 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
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...reading some of his posts, you NEVER know what he's poked.... 
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 ... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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03-06-2003, 12:11 PM
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Bass Whacker
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: NJ
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Omg Bloo!  You too funny 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
August 29--a date that lives in striper infamy.
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03-06-2003, 12:25 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Quote:
If you encounter one, stay away. They are Federally protected. Even poking one with a stick could end you up in the federal clink. You wouldn't want to go to jail for ten years with a bunch of killers for poking seal.
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In Maine there are signs all over stating that is illegal to bother or kill a seal unless it is in the process of attacking a human being - then you are allowed to shoot it. Seals club adult humans...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
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03-06-2003, 01:15 PM
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DaveS... you're on my list.
I just snorted frickin' water up my nose L-ing, MAO... now I have boogers on my sleeve. Not nice.
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03-06-2003, 05:59 PM
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None
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Location: Newton, MA
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bloocrab, you are funny, man

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03-06-2003, 06:10 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
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lmao, Bloo U make Me pee Me pants
Hey Wee Wee can I transplant rebar to Your head? 
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Pro Tool Club....
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03-06-2003, 07:10 PM
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Rocket Launcher
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: cape cod canal
Posts: 322
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When encountering a seal
1.Ask it if it would like a ride to say Vermont [no seal law there]
2. Then club it in the head
3. skin it
4.free reel sock or hat
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Two Changes and It's Legal
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03-06-2003, 07:16 PM
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Registered User
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Location: warwick
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what happens when you are in the water with the seal? then what do u do?? what cha goinga do?????
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03-06-2003, 07:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by BM
lmao, Bloo U make Me pee Me pants
Hey Wee Wee can I transplant rebar to Your head?
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Take a number and get in line bubba. 
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03-06-2003, 07:22 PM
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Rocket Launcher
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: cape cod canal
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reply
SEALS fly in these
Last edited by IFG; 03-06-2003 at 07:24 PM..
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Two Changes and It's Legal
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03-06-2003, 07:22 PM
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Rocket Launcher
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Location: cape cod canal
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reply
of course a real S.E.A.L would kick your ass if you poked it or bothered him
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Two Changes and It's Legal
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03-06-2003, 10:06 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 7,557
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they wont bother You, when there out in front they push Bass into Holes, thats all Ya get out of Me.
Slip can fight seals real good
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Pro Tool Club....
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03-07-2003, 01:34 PM
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Dave-
I dunno...did I tell you about the time I was chased out of the water by a 300 lber at Nauset last June?
Scared the crap out of me. 
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03-07-2003, 02:36 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
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Location: Cape Cod
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punch it in the head
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Pro Tool Club....
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03-08-2003, 09:03 PM
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Nah, more like shoot it in the head. 
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