Red Sox Sign Crawford!!! - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

fishbones · 12-09-2010, 12:29 AM

It was just reported that the Sox signed Carl Crawford to a 7 year, $142 million deal. This changes the look of the AL East for the time being.

So much for me thinking they would only add middle reflief after trading for Gonzalez.

BasicPatrick · 12-09-2010, 01:11 AM

The Dad Fisherman · 12-09-2010, 06:17 AM

Yeah Baby....probably running out of cash....but a quality starter would be pretty pissah right about now too...

BigFish · 12-09-2010, 07:10 AM

Great! 2 overpaid rightfielders???? What are we doing with JD Drew's 16 mil a year contract??? They said Crawford will be in right???

BigFish · 12-09-2010, 07:11 AM

So we just got another 1st baseman.....which we didn't need......and another right fielder??? When we needed a catcher and middle relief???

vineyardblues · 12-09-2010, 07:23 AM

He is a big deal,, good for us
Should be fun watching ball this spring ,

lot's of speed

Short right field ,

starting next year ! Very interesting 4 sure

afterhours · 12-09-2010, 07:34 AM

this is going be an exciting team!

ells- 50 sb
pedroia- 25 sb
crawford- 50 sb
gonsalez- 40 hr
papi- 30 hr
youk- 30 hr
drew- 20hr
lowrie/scoutaro-?
catcher-?

ThomCat · 12-09-2010, 07:40 AM

Hey Big Fish Larry, I take it U don't approve of the weeks festivities. It's worth it just to watch the Yankits squirm and besides I ain't payin' 'em....

chrisjoe13 · 12-09-2010, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

So we just got another 1st baseman.....which we didn't need......and another right fielder??? When we needed a catcher and middle relief???

So..you're happy that Tek was signed but unhappy with the addition of Crawford and Gonzo???

JohnR · 12-09-2010, 08:52 AM

Guess this means no Cliff Lee?

nightfighter · 12-09-2010, 08:59 AM

Rays have been stripped down pretty good with the loss of Crawford and Pena.
I would think Cameron's name has to be getting offered around in trade talks for pitching.....

The Dad Fisherman · 12-09-2010, 07:43 AM

Crawford is a Left Fielder....Guy has Speed and can hit for Average. Crawford, Elsbury, and Drew for our outfield is pretty sweet.

We needed a Third Baseman......we picked up a 1st baseman and we can move Youkilis to 3rd....which is what he was in the 1st place. Our corners are pretty solid now w/ gold glove players at both positions....who also both have power and hit for average.

Yeah, we need a catcher....but we will need to come to terms w/ the fact that we will be weak at that position this year.....unless we can miraculously find a diamond in the rough somewhere.

Middle Relief!!! If the Sox were m#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g around w/ middle relief this early in the free agent season I think my head might have exploded. I'd love to see them get another quality starter and send Dice-K to the pen for long relief stints.

they just made the team so much better by leaps and bounds.

tysdad115 · 12-09-2010, 09:08 AM

This brings them 4 million short of 300 million in contracts this year so far. I will humbly offer myself to pitch middle relief for 2.5 million a year. A big lefty with a heater and change up around 60mph. I will need a clause in the terms-I wont be available to pitch a week before or after certain moon/tide cycles. This leaves 1.5 for another relief pitcher. Who else is in?

pmueller · 12-09-2010, 10:11 AM

As good as it gets. I've had the feeling that Theo has been sitting on his hands last few years, letting the catcher and third base position be weak.
Youk at third is no problem at all. He does not care were he plays. Its sooooo nice to see we got the goods and NY is picking their nose. lol.
After they let Beltre go, I thouight this was going to be another humbug winter.

fishbones · 12-09-2010, 10:29 AM

Sox made a 7 year offer to Lee. Probably just to drive up the price and tweak the Yankees. Cashman seems to be a little on edge the last couple of days.
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tysdad115 · 12-09-2010, 10:58 AM

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Sox made a 7 year offer to Lee. Probably just to drive up the price and tweak the Yankees. Cashman seems to be a little on edge the last couple of days.
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WEEI said it was a "Lowball" offer, of 7 years. Supposedly others have offered 6 year deals. This could be a good start.

spinncognito · 12-09-2010, 11:09 AM

Now that they signed crawford the need for a quality catcher is less important, partly due to the fact that they wont have to try to throw Crawford out trying to steal 19 games a year X 4 at bats per game...

ProfessorM · 12-09-2010, 11:19 AM

wow. like I said Theo always seems to have a plan, it doesn't always work out but he is always thinking. A little left handed heavy but I don't care, we'll live with it . K Y to third which is where he would rather be and JD gone after next year. Left field Lawrence. You would rather have Beltre and Youk instead of Youk and A G.? Wrong. Going to be a fun year no matter how it pans out.

Rockfish9 · 12-09-2010, 12:33 PM

I like it.. he was always been a sox killer when he was in Tampa...

What I lreally like is the prospect of the 4 teams...Celtics are crushing everyone put in front of them ( now they will lose to the Nicks tonight) the Bruins are playing inspired hockey most nights.. the Pats seem to be hitting stride in time for the playoffs... and with the New additions to the sox.. there is hope...

Slammer223 · 12-09-2010, 01:35 PM

Not a typical Sox team.This year the opposing catcher has to sweat.

stcroixman · 12-09-2010, 03:32 PM

red sox trying to buy the pennant! That is what is always said about the Yankees.

BigFish · 12-09-2010, 04:15 PM

They need to get rid of a couple of "Albatross" contracts.....JD and Dice K. They both make way too much for what they give. Crawford is NOT a 20 mil a year player and that is for damn sure!!!! 20 mil a year players either hit 40+ dingers a year, drive in 130 and win an MVP award or they win 25 games and whiff 300 a season and win a CY!!! You can have Crawford....he is all yours.....I choose to think it was a horrible deal for what we will be getting......he is a Gold Glove First Baseman?????? Big Deal, they don't get much better than Youk at first???

19 homers and 107 RBI are his best for a season......20 mil a year???? Wow you guys are mad!

striperman36 · 12-09-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

They need to get rid of a couple of "Albatross" contracts.....JD and Dice K. They both make way too much for what they give. Crawford is NOT a 20 mil a year player and that is for damn sure!!!! 20 mil a year players either hit 40+ dingers a year, drive in 130 and win an MVP award or they win 25 games and whiff 300 a season and win a CY!!! You can have Crawford....he is all yours.....I choose to think it was a horrible deal for what we will be getting......he is a Gold Glove First Baseman?????? Big Deal, they don't get much better than Youk at first???

19 homers and 107 RBI are his best for a season......20 mil a year???? Wow you guys are mad!

The Werth contract set the bar

The Dad Fisherman · 12-09-2010, 04:54 PM

Again....he is a Left Fielder. He is a very solid well rounded baseball player. He hits for average, has speed on the base paths, covers a lot of ground in the outfield. a good addition to the team.

It ain't all about just HRs....if Drew was worth 16 mil a year way back when....why isn't this guy worth 20.

Salaries are out of control...at least they can afford to keep up w/ the Yank-mees

The Dad Fisherman · 12-09-2010, 06:57 PM

OK Then...who do we get out of the Free agent market??? There's no catchers worth a crap, Pena is gone and he wasn't the answer....a few more HR's but an anemic average.... We lost 2 bats for us.....we need somebody to score runs and help prevent runs...this guy does that. He's well rounded with a lot of the core tools. Speed, good bat, good defense....between him and Ellsbury there aren't going to be many balls dropping in the outfield...they'll get to them.

Guess what w/ the market these days....the next 50 HR guy you see will be commanding 35 mil a year.

There's no salary cap and its no surprise that salaries are through the roof....and if we don't get him somebody else will....its basic supply and demand.

and they also made their competition in the East less of a threat by taking him from Tampa....you know...the team that won the division last year...that right there is worth a few million.

and he's not with the Yank-mees either.....that is also worth a few million.

BigFish · 12-09-2010, 07:02 PM

We lost 2 bats because the Sox did not want to sign them......Beltre and Martinez were bonafide offensive players and they would have been bargains at their price compared to this guy!!! You keep proving my point Kevin......"Speed, good bat and good defense".........Key word is "GOOD"!!!! He is just good, marginal, average, standard......he is being paid "GREAT" money and he is far from great!

BigFish · 12-09-2010, 07:08 PM

I am hoping Mike P can make sense of this but I am going to bet he thinks Crawford was overpaid?

tysdad115 · 12-09-2010, 09:40 PM

Ill give it a go Larry. First is anyone really worth 20 million a year? No is the answer. Looking at what Crawford will do in this lineup is intriguing though. The best defensive outfielder available. His average stats SHOULD improve plus other intangibles runs scored, doubles triples etc. They overpaid due to market price and they prevented him from playing elsewhere for the same money.
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BigFish · 12-09-2010, 09:50 PM

Nice try Andy. Next?

ProfessorM · 12-09-2010, 10:13 PM

God bless your wife
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