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02-26-2011, 10:12 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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SIERRA CLUB ?
My wife wanted to join up for $15.00 bucks and i told her to be careful that these are not the same friggan people helping to close the beaches because of the endangered species act. Blah Blah Blah....
Anyone done their homework on them?
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02-26-2011, 10:22 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Sometimes their interests align with ours, sometimes they are opposed, and the correlation of forces favors them.
I wish they were more practical then they are.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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02-26-2011, 10:41 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,945
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Raven, they oppose any OHV activity (Off Highway Vehicle)..
be it ORV, Snowmobile, Quad, or dirtbike..your dollars will go to their fight.
Sierra, Nature Conservancy..MA Audubon, etc. etc. etc. ..
(the list is too damn long)................
all anti ORV and OHV..some even are getting active against mountain biking, yes..pedal powered off pavement use.
Last edited by Karl F; 02-26-2011 at 10:45 AM..
Reason: effed up!
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02-26-2011, 10:46 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,945
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If you want to support a group that champions responsible off road use by motorized vehicles...look into the Blue Ribbon Coalition...
google them up...
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02-26-2011, 11:05 AM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I live in the Villiage of Hyannis in the Town of Barnstable in the Commonwealth of MA
Posts: 2,795
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Sierra club is known to actively oppose what I consider reasonable vehicular beach access. I can personally attest to the fact that they wrote letters opposing a modern management plan for Cape Hatteras National Seashore.
I also have read some letters they sent as comment on the last ORV Plan for Cape Cod National Seashore.
I am pretty proud that I do not lump all conservation/environmental organizations into one pot and often work with some on recreatioanl issues on which we can agree.
That being said, Sierra club is one ENGO I consider a anti access.
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
 
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02-26-2011, 11:10 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Dedham MA
Posts: 98
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Go to the web site of your state's chapter - it will tell you exactly what they're involved in.
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02-26-2011, 12:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sturbridge MA
Posts: 3,127
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Taken from the Sierra Club Cape Cod website.
Off-Road Vehicles
Usage of Off-Road Vehicles (ORVs) in forests and protected wildlands, such as the Cape Cod National Seashore, is a potentially damaging activity, due not only to physical damage to vegetation caused by vehicles, but also to concerns of exhaust and noise pollution. The Cape Cod Group recently researched and wrote the basis of the Massachusetts Sierra Club response to the MA DCR Draft proposal concerning Criteria for ORV road building in public lands. We determined that ORV trails and areas on public lands should be closed to all vehicles, unless their use is deemed appropriate after complete financial, safety, and environmental analysis and review.
Neither the Massachusetts Department of Conservation and Recreation (DCR) nor user groups have successfully enforced existing rules, even when trails have been closed. Because existing problems have not been fixed, no new ORV trails should be contemplated. In the greater Cape Cod Area, the DCR closed Myles Standish State Forest in Plymouth to ORV use in 2005 due to concerns of misuse and environmental damage.
The Cape Cod group hopes that more of such actions will be taken in order to protect fragile ecosystems from damage. We continue to press the National Park Service to honor their pledge to periodically assess ORV damage with impartial, peer-reviewed scientific studies.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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02-26-2011, 01:43 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Rockcrawler
Taken from the Sierra Club Cape Cod website.
Usage of Off-Road Vehicles (ORVs) in forests and protected wildlands, such as the Cape Cod National Seashore, is a potentially damaging activity, due not only to physical damage to vegetation caused by vehicles, but also to concerns of exhaust and noise pollution.
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Sierra club would have a more profound impact by paying to close the MillHill club one night per week in summer. |
~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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02-26-2011, 01:52 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 6,267
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They are also the ones who got the "opt out" removed for homeowners (without small children) & contractors in that whole ridiculous RRP lead law from the E.P.A.
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Live at Leeds
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02-27-2011, 10:06 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Sierra club would have a more profound impact by paying to close the MillHill club one night per week in summer.
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no worries John.. the SwillHill club has been closed up and abandoned for several years now... soon to be torn down and replaced with the trendy plastic clapboards and sanitary look.. most likely be some kind of medical or office building.
Medical would be fitting.. lord knows how many livers died there, fist and knife fights etc...
was a real barn burner for several decades though...
the last decade or so of it's lifespan, it was a real oasis for the drug set.
looked like a Yarmouth PD substation most Friday and Saturday nights... |
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02-26-2011, 10:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: S. Easton
Posts: 1,676
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
My wife wanted to join up for $15.00 bucks and i told her to be careful that these are not the same friggan people helping to close the beaches because of the endangered species act. Blah Blah Blah....
Anyone done their homework on them?
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Tell her not to join and I will promise not to run over any piping plovers this year.... |
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